What do you plan on doing when 2025 comes around?

AK6DN said:

So how is it that it is so easy to install Windows 11 via bypassing TPM 2.0?
Windows 11 certainly runs just fine without TPM available.
I know of no end user applications that require TPM. Can you name any?

I have 2 Notebooks from about 10 years ago that I've Upgraded from Win10 to Win11, both 64-bit one Home and one Pro, using the single-file change in the bootable USB drive made using the MCT process. While booted into Win10 I started the Upgrade from within File Explorer and running the setup.exe file on the Thumb drive. I did not uninstall any programs, haven't had an issue with Win11 on them yet.

An issue had occurred on one Notebook with Win10 with hardware, the Wireless adapter is 802.11n, supports 2G but does not support 5G to which end I use an Edimax 802.11ac USB dongle for that. The other Notebook is about a year younger and has 2G and 5G support.

AK6DN said:

So how is it that it is so easy to install Windows 11 via bypassing TPM 2.0?
Windows 11 certainly runs just fine without TPM available.
I know of no end user applications that require TPM. Can you name any?

Windows 10, Windows 11, Windows 12, Windows 13, ... is just a ponzi scheme by Microsoft to keep the dollars flowing in IMHO.

The writing is on the wall you can take non compatible computers to window 11 and bypass the requirements but we already know that those computers will not get extended support on major releases this means that to bypass that further those computers need to reinstall windows completely at each major revision of windows.

Microsoft has also stated that any computer that is not compatible that they are not liable for any damages that may occur,
this means that if they push an update and it kills your computer then tough luck not their fault.

Hence why i said its a cat mouse game earlier basically what i meant was there is not point taking any computer there if it is not compatible.

Windows 11 is a stop gap for 12 like vista was for 7 anyway. So you might be able to do these things now but by the time 12 comes it will be more locked in imo.

Yes it is a ponzi scheme because the E waste issue is going to cause money generation in the billions.

The point is that TPM and trusted computing has the potential to bring in new avenues of authentication and on a level that most people are not thinking about. It could be as simple as defining a human user against a AI one so like proving that you are actually human, or it could be any of the several other reasons that have been mentioned already these are all valid outcomes.

We already know that Microsot IP in the form of the game Minecraft is validating chat logs from the players through Cryptography and then using that information to moderate its services in the form of banning users that break any "rules". Just think about that for a minute what that means is watch what you say online because it can and will be used against you and it is verified that it came from you because it is signed with crypto.

Do you know what attestation is? and the potential use case it has? the list goes on yeah well for trusted computing you need TPM and that is why they want it as a requirement going forward it has nothing to do with software usability for the user. Well actually it could be used for these reason but its not the main reason.

The main reason is authentication for services, trusted computing which is proving who you are in time this could mean that your real life credentials are tied to the computer and this means zero transparency online. Combine that with the example in red for a minute this means they will know who you are and what you say and its verified 100% that its you saying these things.

Currently data and the connection to identity is assumed in the majority of things we do on computers, coming into the future they want to be able to hold people accountable but the ramifications are massive. They also want to make it so that when we cross boarders online its like proving who you are at the Airport so each time you access something online that is from a different locale then potentially you are authenticating who you are and where you come from.

Well they tried bringing in some of the early precursor stuff to this with Vista but people revolted against it i cannot recall of the top of my head what it was called at the time but it was one of those systems that changed name. The tech has been around since then but it was mainly utilized for enterprise computing and a lot more primitive.

Vista the first stop gap this time around 11 being the second stop gap but the tech is becoming more requirement and they have had 15 to 20 years to refine the game plan to come.

Why Windows? because its multifaceted and Windows has the biggest market share of users but soon it will be across everything is some form.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...-device-health

They have written this in a way that sounds convoluted but if you understand it "Zero trust" is basically proving who you are and proving your right to be trusted to those services.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/az...tion-solutions

in picture form basically showing you in pictures what trusted computing is and proving who you are.

You need TPM to do these things. Then just read up on there about TPM its showing you in full detail what the TPM is capable of.

its also in the name TPM or Trusted platform Module

You also have to realize that it will be across everything eventually and with the market leader paving the way which is Microsoft well actually its tencent and tencent has dealings with Microsoft then basically over time they will dictate the landscape. This is actually unethical in itself becaue a market leader is not supposed to have this much control over the market but this is what is potentially happening behind closed doors.

Each acquisition that Microsoft gains is just another notch in its belt, the most recent being Activison being the biggest gaming publisher and entertainment online is big money which will also be used to being this stuff in because a massive demographic of computers is about gaming.

Berton said:

I have 2 Notebooks from about 10 years ago that I've Upgraded from Win10 to Win11, both 64-bit one Home and one Pro, using the single-file change in the bootable USB drive made using the MCT process. While booted into Win10 I started the Upgrade from within File Explorer and running the setup.exe file on the Thumb drive. I did not uninstall any programs, haven't had an issue with Win11 on them yet.

An issue had occurred on one Notebook with Win10 with hardware, the Wireless adapter is 802.11n, supports 2G but does not support 5G to which end I use an Edimax 802.11ac USB dongle for that. The other Notebook is about a year younger and has 2G and 5G support.

Hi Berton. Would this upgrade to Windows 11 work with a bootable USB drive created from a Windows 11 .iso using Rufus?