Changing the boot order

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  1. Posts : 970
    Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19045.2846
    Thread Starter
       #11

    cereberus said:
    The easiest way to change order and which boot entry, rename entry and set default boot time/entry is to use easybcd.
    Is the latest version 2.4.0.237? One site says latest update Jul 10, 2023, the other says 2018.

    How do I handle this?

    Changing the boot order-screenshot_1.jpg

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    Pentagon said:
    In order to have a better identification of the systems during startup (boot options) you can use the command

    Change Operating System Name in Boot Options at Startup in Windows 10

    cmd (admin)
    bcdedit /set {current} description "Windows 1"
    "Windows 2"
    "Windows 3"
    including the "..."

    Before you boot to the next/different OS make the change in
    a) Advanced system settings or
    b) msconfig

    It is import to do that when you run Windows Update
    It's also possible to use only one Recovery Environment
    I'm sure I've gotten ahead of myself here. I ran the command. I'm feel I was supposed to do modifications?

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>cmd (admin)
    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19045.3930]
    (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>bcdedit /set {current} description "Windows 1"
    The operation completed successfully.

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>"Windows 2"
    '"Windows 2"' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
    operable program or batch file.

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>"Windows 3"
    '"Windows 3"' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
    operable program or batch file.

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>including the "..."
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  2. Posts : 68,995
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
       #12

    kitpzyxmsir said:
    I'm sure I've gotten ahead of myself here. I ran the command. I'm feel I was supposed to do modifications?

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>cmd (admin)
    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19045.3930]
    (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>bcdedit /set {current} description "Windows 1"
    The operation completed successfully.

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>"Windows 2"
    '"Windows 2"' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
    operable program or batch file.

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>"Windows 3"
    '"Windows 3"' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
    operable program or batch file.

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>including the "..."
    That command is to rename the boot menu item. You would need to repeat the full command for each boot menu item you want to rename instead of just the identifier.

    Change Operating System Name in Boot Options at Startup in Windows 10
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  3. Posts : 4,594
    several
       #13

    Changing the boot order-den-des-osd.jpg

    for example:
    using the identifiers in the screenshot above

    bcdedit -set {current} description "Windows 1"

    bcdedit -set {937ed17f-b2cd-11ee-8f5f-18c04d5f80c6} description "Windows 2"
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  4. Posts : 15,494
    Windows10
       #14

    Re. Easybcd - download latest version.

    Re. uefi message - just ignore and click ok.

    You will find it so easy to manage multiple boot entries compared with faffing around with bcdedit commands which becomes tedious with multiple entries greater than two.
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  5. Posts : 669
    WIN 10 19045.4291
       #15

    @kitpzyxmsir

    You can do it also without identifier ids

    go to "Advanced system settings" or "msconfig" and select the system you want to be
    "Windows 2"
    reboot
    Then type
    bcdedit /set {current} description "Windows 2"
    go to Advanced system settings or msconfig and select the system you want to be
    "Windows 3"
    reboot
    Then type
    bcdedit /set {current} description "Windows 3"

    The running system always has the identifier {current}
    or run
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>bcdedit /enum bootmgr

    Windows-Start-Manager
    ---------------------
    identifier {bootmgr}
    device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
    path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
    description Windows Boot Manager
    locale de-DE
    inherit {globalsettings}
    default {current}
    resumeobject {f95db696-5d69-11ee-8d4b-9fa08e457d58}
    displayorder {current}
    {cbe2efc6-7046-11ea-81f0-aa68f145d461}
    {c9230bf5-3b6a-11ee-8b6d-98e7f4d34096}

    toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
    timeout 3

    and do it in one step by selecting the {id} from your displayorder list and replace it in the bcdedit-command
    bcdedit /set {cbe2efc6-7046-11ea-81f0-aa68f145d461} description "Windows 2"
    bcdedit /set {c9230bf5-3b6a-11ee-8b6d-98e7f4d34096} description "Windows 3"
    Last edited by Pentagon; 19 Jan 2024 at 05:05.
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  6. Posts : 970
    Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19045.2846
    Thread Starter
       #16

    Pentagon said:
    @kitpzyxmsir

    You can do it also without identifier ids

    go to "Advanced system settings" or "msconfig" and select the system you want to be
    "Windows 2"
    reboot
    Then type
    bcdedit /set {current} description "Windows 2"
    go to Advanced system settings or msconfig and select the system you want to be
    "Windows 3"
    reboot
    Then type
    bcdedit /set {current} description "Windows 3"

    The running system always has the identifier {current}
    or run
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>bcdedit /enum bootmgr

    Windows-Start-Manager
    ---------------------
    identifier {bootmgr}
    device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
    path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
    description Windows Boot Manager
    locale de-DE
    inherit {globalsettings}
    default {current}
    resumeobject {f95db696-5d69-11ee-8d4b-9fa08e457d58}
    displayorder {current}
    {cbe2efc6-7046-11ea-81f0-aa68f145d461}
    {c9230bf5-3b6a-11ee-8b6d-98e7f4d34096}

    toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
    timeout 3

    and do it in one step by selecting the {id} from your displayorder list and replace it in the bcdedit-command
    bcdedit /set {cbe2efc6-7046-11ea-81f0-aa68f145d461} description "Windows 2"
    bcdedit /set {c9230bf5-3b6a-11ee-8b6d-98e7f4d34096} description "Windows 3"
    I was able to change names, used "add last" to move disk 3, with the lowest boot priority, to 3rd in the boot list, and also added Macrium to the boot list

    Changing the boot order-boot-mac.jpg

    after which, msconfig changed from this

    Changing the boot order-misconfig-reverted.jpg

    to this

    Changing the boot order-misconfig.jpg

    but C:\ is still not on the top of the list. So I haven't achieved the goal of reprioritizing the boot order.
    However, Macrium has become a factor. If I go into the Macrium recovery environment, and choose which disk to boot with, even if it already the default boot disk

    Changing the boot order-mac-rec.jpg

    The boot menu revert back to the way it originally was,

    Changing the boot order-boot-revert.jpg

    and if I don't choose to change the default OS, and let it time out

    Changing the boot order-choose.jpg

    the system will boot to Disk 3

    and msconfig is now back to this

    Changing the boot order-misconfig-reverted.jpg

    So where do we go from here. Why is Macrium stuck on Disk 3 and this boot order? Can we manage Macrium to conform to the plan?
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  7. Posts : 669
    WIN 10 19045.4291
       #17

    @kitpzyxmsir
    bcdedit /displayorder {identifier} {identifier} {identifier}
    is the right command for you
    Select the identifier from
    bcdedit /enum bootmgr
    just copy & paste
    and you are ready

    Why did you add Macrium before the first step is done?
    Never use Macrium FIX BOOT again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    run the command below
    bcdedit /enum all >> %userprofile%\Desktop\BCDEditALL.txt
    and upload the textfile from your desktop
    Last edited by Brink; 19 Jan 2024 at 19:59. Reason: removed unneeded comments
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  8. Posts : 15,494
    Windows10
       #18

    Now you have run the brilliant Macrium Reflect fix windows boot option, it is really easy to sort this now.


    You have three entries shown in msconfig. The order in MSconfig does not matter - what matters is which Windows you want as default.

    All you need to do is boot to the C drive, install easybcd, and use edit menu option to sort the drives and rename them.

    Optionally, reinstate Macrium Reflect option from Macrium Reflect menu (you can even sort that with easybcd)

    Here is my pc using easybcd.

    Changing the boot order-s.png
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  9. Posts : 970
    Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19045.2846
    Thread Starter
       #19

    Pentagon said:
    @kitpzyxmsir
    bcdedit /displayorder {identifier} {identifier} {identifier}
    is the right command for you
    Select the identifier from
    bcdedit /enum bootmgr
    just copy & paste
    and you are ready

    Why did you add Macrium before the first step is done?
    Never use Macrium FIX BOOT again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    run the command below
    bcdedit /enum all >> %userprofile%\Desktop\BCDEditALL.txt
    and upload the textfile from your desktop
    Forgive me if I did not do a competent job of rendering my step by step [procedure, but I tried to make it clear that Macrium didn't enter the picture until all the preparation I was given here was already completed. Then and only then did I 'Create Rescue Media" within the Macrium app.

    I had a lot of trial and error trying to implement the advice I got here, so I already experienced Macriums role here. I thought maybe I was missing something, or mishandling something, so I had to be as meticulous as my ignorance would allow.

    It was working, when it came to renaming and ordering the boot menu, as evidenced by the images, but not the most important aspect, which was straightening out the boot priority problem. This is how I set things up

    cmd (admin)
    bcdedit /set {current} description "Windows 1"
    bcdedit /set {915d01fe-b70f-11ee-8ef0-d050998538f1} description "Windows 2"
    bcdedit /set {915d0200-b70f-11ee-8ef0-d050998538f1} description "Windows 3"

    I need Macrium, to take advantage of all it's assets, which includes it's rescue environment.

    Thanks, I now have BCDEditALL.txt

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    cereberus said:
    Now you have run the brilliant Macrium Reflect fix windows boot option, it is really easy to sort this now.


    You have three entries shown in msconfig. The order in MSconfig does not matter - what matters is which Windows you want as default.

    All you need to do is boot to the C drive, install easybcd, and use edit menu option to sort the drives and rename them.

    Optionally, reinstate Macrium Reflect option from Macrium Reflect menu (you can even sort that with easybcd)

    Here is my pc using easybcd.

    Changing the boot order-s.png
    Hi cereberus,

    I gotta say, easybcd scares me a little bit. First thing that happened yesterday after I opened it, it changes the name of my "current' drive with no confirmation. I had a feeling, so I rebooted, and there it was, "Windows 1".

    In the process of trying to use it, several interesting things happened.


    Changing the boot order-20240119_102908.jpg


    Changing the boot order-20240119_102918.jpg

    I'm gonna try to follow what you have done, but as you can see, I didn't have a lot of luck last time.
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  10. Posts : 4,594
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       #20

    bcdedit /displayorder {current} /addfirst
    bcdedit /displayorder {915d0200-b70f-11ee-8ef0-d050998538f1} /addlast

    or you could use a third party program like the little portable bootice BOOTICE-1.3.3.zip

    Changing the boot order-bootice-easymode0.jpg

    Changing the boot order-bootice-easymode1.jpg

    Changing the boot order-bootice-easymode2.jpg
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