Windows 10 bugs

Wynona said:

Kari said:

Thanks for the explanation, I was interested in this as I have a clean install so I had no own experience of that, my Office was clean install. I think I will test this, perform one upgrade install to 9879 from 9860 with Office 365 apps installed.

Yes, I'd be interested in what you find too.

Because I need and use both Ms Access and Ms Visio which are not included in Office 365 apps in my subscription, I have not installed my Office apps from 365 before this test but have instead used the normal Office 2013 Professional Plus install media and product key. For this test I made a clean install build 9860 on one real and one virtual machine, installed the whole Office 365 suite of apps and upgraded then both installations to build 9879.

I installed following apps:

OK, tested now. I have none whatsoever issues. Directly after upgrading Build 9860 to Build 9879 all Office apps work as they should, I am already signed in meaning the build upgrade did not remove the sign in information. Screenshot taken seconds after first boot to desktop after build upgrade:

Looks like I cannot reproduce your issue. I do not know if the Office 365 edition has any meaning in this but I do not believe it; the apps in my Office 365 Business Premium are exactly the same than in all other Office 365 editions.

Kari

Wynona said:

1. I have a subscription to Office Home ($99 per year for 5 computers) and Access comes with it. I believe my Office 2013 Pro Plus also comes with Access. So I find it strange that you don't have Access with your package. Visio is not included in my package.

I have Office 365 Business Premium which costs here €115.20 ($144) a year per user, with obligatory 23% VAT €142 ($178) per user a year. I need and have three users. In Business and Enterprise editions of Office 365 the cheapest edition to contain Access which also has all other elements I need is Office 365 Enterprise E3 which costs here exactly the double of that, €230 ($288) a year per user, VAT included €284 ($356).

In my case the difference is simply too big, I am not willing to pay over €420 ($530) a year extra for these three users only to get Access, especially as I have multiple Office 2013 Professional Plus licences. On the other hand, I cannot get a lesser edition than the current Business Premium because they lack some of the services and features I need. I am kind of paying for these Office apps without ever needing them because I have no other options :).

Office 365 Business and Enterprise edition comparison: Compare All Office 365 for Business Plans

The same comparison in my adopted home country Germany. Notice that European prices are without 23% VAT which will be added: Alle Pläne für Office 365 für Unternehmen vergleichen

Wynona said:

2. It's very strange that I had problems and you didn't. Very strange indeed.

Maybe I should try the whole thing again?

It is strange. If you have time and patience to try again, I would clean install 9860, install and sign in to Office 365 apps, then upgrade to 9879. If you decide to give it a try do not forget first to deactivate previous Office 365 installation in order to avoid any unnecessary problems:

Wynona said:

That is a huge difference in cost and I don't blame you one bit for not paying extra for Access when you have it in Office 2013. Do you just install the Access part of Office 2013 and do they play nice together?

We have a doctor appointment this morning, but I will try to get to re-installing 9860 and then Office 365 this afternoon.

I have the ISO file, I just install using it:

Then I enter my product key which connects the Office with my normal MS Account, then add the Office 365 account. This allows me to use all Office apps as I'd like to, selecting from three online save locations according to what I need, a Sharepoint team website, OneDrive for Business or normal OneDrive.

I'm interested how it goes if you try the Build 9860 > Install Office 365 > Sign in to Office 365 > Upgrade to Build 9879 process once again. Please keep us posted.

davehc said:

rmonroe36 said:

CountMike said:

Does anybody have bad lag while opening Diskcleanup ? I wrote that off because I have W10 on a HDD so it's slower anyway but now in 9879 it takes almost 5 minutes to start opening it at all. Same lag when going to advanced cleanup.

Pretty much the same here and on two different desktop computers.


Rich

You need to clean out the Windows.old and the windows -bt folders, then you will find the operation normal. They can be both pretty large, and disk clean up is taking time to scan them.

Hi davehc, in response to your reply of my query here: https://www.tenforums.com/general-dis...tml#post167613

Anyway even with Windows.old cleaned out disk cleanup still takes forever to launch. It may be "scanning", but the issue is you don't know and may simply think the operation isn't working, or simply crashed as there's no indication of any activity.

While writing the post I launched DC and it took over two minutes to launch. I would definitely call this a bug.

At any rate now I know, thanks.