Windows 10 Bootup Shows No Logo/Takes Longer Than It Should


  1. Posts : 6
    Windows 10
       #1

    Windows 10 Bootup Shows No Logo/Takes Longer Than It Should


    Hi, I'm having an issue that I searched and searched for and can find absolutely nothing so I decided to make an account here.

    I'm finally nearly done with building a new PC with a Ryzen 9 5900X CPU, 32GB DDR4 RAM (running at default speed because XMP annoyingly doesn't seem to work with my RAM, I may return it), MSI B550 Tomahawk board, a 1tb PCIe 4 M.2 SSD to boot from and an RX 5700 XT GPU. The problem is that I installed Windows 10 21H2 19044.1706 (because I wanted the same version as was on my previous computer), and after installing it at first it did the thing you'd expect with UEFI where the BIOS splash screen would seamlessly transition to the Windows loading circle with the BIOS logo in place of the stock Windows one and after maybe a second or two it would go straight to the desktop. Extremely fast, good stuff.

    But for whatever reason, it stopped doing that after maybe two more boots. I have no idea why, but now when I turn the computer on, the BIOS splash comes up, then the screen flickers off and back on as if it's changing resolutions (even though both seem to be 1080p), and goes to a Windows loading circle with no logo whatsoever, and takes a fair bit longer to get to the desktop than before. I tried re-installing the OS and that did not fix it, even though when booting the installer from the flash drive it does show the MSI MAG logo in place of the stock Windows one. This is incredibly annoying and I'd appreciate any help, thanks.
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  2. Posts : 24
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.2728
       #2

    Sounds like Windows is not happy with something maybe left over from setting up BIOS

    I would take everything off the board pull battery and start over.
    Bare board restart wait a few min.
    One mem restart wait a few min. (Make sure mem is in right slots)
    Two mem restart wait a few min.
    GPU restart wait a few min.
    After making sure GPU shows no bootable media add drive restart a couple of times to make sure all is good.
    Configure BIOS for your basic needs. No memory mods or anything else radical Take pics of every page so you will have a record and can roll back if needed.
    Install OS with drivers that came with board and vid card
    Make image
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  3. Posts : 6
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thanks for responding, I ended up returning the old RAM and I'm waiting for the replacement to arrive. If that works out and I still have this issue I'll follow those steps.
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  4. Posts : 6
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Alright, I got the new RAM in and XMP is working now. Unfortunately I cleared the BIOS by shorting the jumper next to the battery and the issue still persists. I haven't tried removing every single component yet but I would really rather not. This is actually my first ever modern totally custom build and putting it all together took me forever. Also, removing some components will be extremely difficult or impossible without removing much bigger ones like my Noctua NH-D15S CPU cooler and/or GPU. GPU itself I really can't even reach the latch to get it out without also perhaps having to remove the CPU cooler. I can film a quick video soon of the issue just in case it could reveal any more.

    - - - Updated - - -

    So here's a really bad video showing the problem, unfortunately this old camera likes to go out of focus in dark lighting. Though, you should still be able to tell there's obviously no logo of any kind.

    Windows 10 Issue - YouTube
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  5. Posts : 7,964
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
       #5

    Disconnect any other drives other than the boot drive and see what happens. If another drive has an active boot partition then that can slow the boot process. This can be fixed by setting the unwanted active boot partition to inactive e.g. by using MiniTool Partition Wizard.
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  6. Posts : 17,049
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #6

    Whilst it's not the solution, I do suggest that you turn off
    Power options, Choose what the power buttons do, Fast start
    just so it does not affect the display of the maker's logo upon starting [from shutdown].

    I imagine you have already turned off any Fast boot setting in the Bios to avoid being misled by any effect it might have on the display of the maker's logo during boot.


    Best of luck,
    Denis
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  7. Posts : 6
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Try3 said:
    Whilst it's not the solution, I do suggest that you turn off
    Power options, Choose what the power buttons do, Fast start
    just so it does not affect the display of the maker's logo upon starting [from shutdown].

    I imagine you have already turned off any Fast boot setting in the Bios to avoid being misled by any effect it might have on the display of the maker's logo during boot.


    Best of luck,
    Denis
    Thanks for this further tip, but I already made sure of this myself.

    Steve C said:
    Disconnect any other drives other than the boot drive and see what happens. If another drive has an active boot partition then that can slow the boot process. This can be fixed by setting the unwanted active boot partition to inactive e.g. by using MiniTool Partition Wizard.
    Tried disconnecting all the SATA drives (two hard drives, optical drive and SATA SSD) and that didn't change anything. I used MiniTool Partition Wizard and no drives have an active boot partition besides my M.2 drive. One detail though I just discovered is that if I force it to bring up the Windows Boot Manager and select Windows 10 from there, it does show the manufacturer boot logo (though it still takes longer than it should). Keep in mind that all these drives were hooked up before and the computer was booting like it should and after a couple more boots it started doing this.

    Oh, and to top it all off I'm trying some games and I'm getting a lot of stuttering! I don't understand this at all and it's really annoying me, I just want this thing to work right. There's no reason for an RX 5700 XT, Ryzen 9 5900 XT combined with 32GB G. Skill Ripjaws V 3600/CL16 ram to be doing this. Like, in No Man's Sky when you select a save file and it's loading into the game and it shows a scene of zooming into space as it's loading, there's a ton of pauses and skips in that and even in-game there's little and sometimes second long stutters at random. I can't believe this, one of the reasons I built this thing was to get away from all the stuttering I was having with my previous machine...
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  8. Posts : 7,964
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
       #8

    You could use Macrium Reflect to create a rescue USB boot drive, boot to that then run through the tool Fix Windows Boot Problems to see if it finds any issues.
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  9. Posts : 6
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #9

    Steve C said:
    You could use Macrium Reflect to create a rescue USB boot drive, boot to that then run through the tool Fix Windows Boot Problems to see if it finds any issues.
    I'll try that. I just popped in a GTX 1060 (the RX 5700 XT actually wasn't as hard to get out as I thought it'd be) and that changed nothing with the bootup thing at least, haven't tried a game yet to see if there's still stuttering. Only other thing I can think to try besides the rescue USB drive would be updating the BIOS, I flashed the BIOS before without the CPU installed and stuff so that it'd work with mine but I saw there was another one released less than a month ago.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Tried the rescue drive, made no difference at all. Updated the BIOS, no difference, took out every SATA drive once again and changed the BIOS battery, again no change. Also tried games with the GTX 1060 and they stutter pretty much identically to the 5700 XT...
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  10. Posts : 6
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #10

    I think I fixed the bootup problem. I downgraded the BIOS using the method involving the button on the back to version 7C91vAB from 2022... and it's doing the BIOS to Windows loading transition like it should. Crossing my fingers that it stays this way.

    I'll do some more testing before I mark this as solved.
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