Windows Search service: Not using the index on network drives searches

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  1. Posts : 17,049
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #11

    I'm surprised that you have not posted screenshots of your Control panel, Indexing options dialog & its Modify, Advanced sub-dialogs and explained how they relate to the searches you are trying to carry out.
    I have not seen a network drive in the Indexing options dialog.


    NirSoft SearchMyFiles does contents searching and it can be added to the File explorer context menu.
    my ditty - using SearchMyFiles for contents search [post #8] - TenForums
    Windows Search service: Not using the index on network drives searches-context-menu-entry.png - Windows Search service: Not using the index on network drives searches-sample-search.png

    - The upper window is the main interface & the lower window is the list of results.
    - As you can guess, I had created all the test files with the search term in them [but not in their names] to demonstrate using SearchMyFiles for contents searching.
    - It can search the contents of MSOffice [Excel, PowerPoint, Word, Access] files, text files & pdf files.
    - I set that option about halfway down Use Windows search handlers to find text inside Microsoft Office documents and other file types in order to catch the contents of pdf files. Without that option set, the text file & all my MSOffice files were detected but the pdf was not.
    - SearchMyFiles can detect search terms in the filenames of a zip file's contents but it cannot detect search terms within the contents of files contained within a zip file.


    If I happen to know that the search term is in pdf files then I use Foxit Reader's own Advanced search function instead of NirSoft SearchMyFiles.
    my ditty - Foxit Reader advanced search - post #14 - TenForums



    All the best,
    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 29 Jul 2023 at 02:24.
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  2. Posts : 43,413
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #12

    Just to clarify - can it search by content ALONE or do you need to specify a form of the file name, and also the content?
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  3. Posts : 17,049
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #13

    Yes, NirSoft SearchMyFiles can search by content alone.
    The examples illustrate this - their filename entry boxes just contains asterisks.

    File explorer folder, file list - SearchMyFiles UI - SearchMyFiles results
    Windows Search service: Not using the index on network drives searches-searching-content-alone.png

    All the test files contain the word elephant except for elephant.txt which contains nothing of interest and is therefore not shown in the results.


    All the best,
    Denis
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  4. Posts : 43,413
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #14

    Ok, you can specify just a search by content, but... just trying it- as it doesn't index content, if I search for 'aardvark' (which exists in a text file) then if I start at C: it's going to take a VERY long time searching through all possible files.

    And in attempting that I got
    Windows Search service: Not using the index on network drives searches-1.jpg
    - and it found 2 dll files.

    (Ok I didn't specify anything about the file to be found).

    I do however see it offers an option to include Windows search handlers for other file types.
    If you have a pdf ifilter, for example, that would suggest it can search text-based pdfs.
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  5. Posts : 17,049
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #15

    dalchina said:
    as it doesn't index content, if I search for 'aardvark' (which exists in a text file) then if I start at C: it's going to take a VERY long time searching through all possible files.
    Yes, it would for such a search.


    dalchina said:
    I do however see it offers an option to include Windows search handlers for other file types.
    If you have a pdf ifilter, for example, that would suggest it can search text-based pdfs.
    Yes, both my examples have illustrated using that option and, as I explained, it is essential for finding pdf file content.
    My Windows indexing options, Advanced does include a File types, pdf contents' indexing handler but I am not aware of any effect that has on SearchMyFiles operations.


    All the best,
    Denis
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  6. Posts : 43,413
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #16

    Search of C: for *.txt content aardvark - about 7 mins on a SSD.

    Completed this time, and my test file was found amongst others; noted it started in the Recycle bin.

    Of course it would be much faster if a particular folder, say Users or somewhere below that was targeted.

    It returned about 10 files, whereas Windows search (because system files aren't indexed in my case) only returns my test file - instantly.
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  7. Posts : 17,049
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #17

    dalchina said:
    Search of C: for *.txt content aardvark - about 7 mins on a SSD.
    It returned about 10 files, whereas Windows search (because system files aren't indexed in my case) only returns my test file - instantly.
    As would be expected.


    Denis
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  8. Posts : 43,413
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #18

    Compare Locate32 (which indexes files by name only) - about 7s to produce the same result.

    I'd expect Everything and similar tools to do the same.

    Windows search: virtually instant.
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  9. Posts : 17,049
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #19

    Understood but we seem to have drifted into time trials of Windows search & third-party tools when the circumstances posed by the OP involved searching without an index.
    - I do simple searches of indexed folders using Windows search. I appreciate its speed.
    - I use NirSoft SearchMyFiles for more complicated searches for which I appreciate having a decent interface to work with.
    - And, as I noted before, I use Foxit reader, Advanced search if I am searching for content in pdf files.


    All the best,
    Denis
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  10. Posts : 43,413
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #20

    Actually the post concerned indexed content search... what I posted was triggered by your recommendation of SearchmyFiles.. so I wanted to ensure there was some sort of indication of comparative speed.

    My initial suggestions for 3rd party tools were for those that indexed content. Thread marked solved, so now unsubscribed.
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