Question, how do I disable Microsoft Telemetry for good?

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  1. Posts : 431
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       #11

    One thing I found out is, whatever "update" you do, Microsoft will reinstate all and change silently your configuration.
    (Big brother tells you what you have to do, can do and will do.)
    Apparently also it does that from time to time checking if you have it disabled.
    Somehow, if not re-create certain settings, it downloads it to your system and reactivates it. Can I expect anything less from this company?

    I did a global search on my system for the file "compattelrunner.exe" and found 6 copies, 2 of which show the create date of May 28 the last time windoz said that it will be updated whether I wanted it, need it or like it.
    (BTW.: It is truly amazing how this company and their OS do not care about how much space they waste on your storage device with unneeded, duplicate, triplet, quadruplet and more etc.. finely distributed over dozens of folders so that you definitely get confused and don't know anymore where you are in this entropic file jungle.)

    As you can see in below search result. just the tip of the tip of the iceberg...
    I will rename all 6 and write a little macro that sends me a pop-up message when that original name file reappears!
    Just found out that it's so far impossible to delete or rename the 3 in the WinSxS folder. No matter what I try changing the permissions.
    I will try to do that by doing a PE boot.

    Question, how do I disable Microsoft Telemetry for good?-compattelrunner.jpg

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    Callender said:
    I really didn't want to post but what are you seeing/ ending in task manager?
    the subject matter: compattelrunner.exe as in "Microsoft Telemetry"
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    Windows 11 Pro (latest update ... forever anal)
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    I've only got one tin-foil hat, so I don't think I want to play this game any more ....
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    idgat said:
    I've only got one tin-foil hat, so I don't think I want to play this game any more ....
    PM Sportster and he'll send you a ebay link, get the variety with the ground connection.
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  6. Posts : 380
    Windows 10
       #16

    3Bit said:
    How do I disable Microsoft Telemetry for good?
    .


    0A. do a search for "Windows 10 Ameliorated" and download whichever version.
    Make sure you setup the administrators account because from there you can create
    the others ( the way it is meant to be ), Before you set it up you need to install a
    file-explorer ( as that is faulty before setting it up ). "XYplorer" "Opus" along with
    "Total Commander" among others. Bare in mind the Administrator will "go blank"
    after a couple of minutes, and you will have to log out and log back in to get whatever
    you need done, thus resetting what you have accomplished if anything. When setting up
    a user/local admin account you need to use the "Taskbar" and go into control panel,
    once in control panel the Explorer will startup, and you could use Irfanview ( portable or install )
    to lay down a nice MOS9 pattern background. From then you will not need to use any alternative
    file-explorer. However it is possible I might be wrong. Then you can start setting up the OS. One
    big draw back is that you "do not have Microsoft store" but "you can still log via your MS-account"
    which is odd. Ameliorated does have some limitations but again more "freedom" rather then
    "security" to the end-user.

    0B. If you do not want to install "Windows 10 Ameliorated" then you could always search for
    "Shut Up 10", AKA "Shut Up Windows 10", AKA "Shut up Windows 11", AKA "OOSU10".
    Shut up 10 will allow you to turn off as many things you want to without jumping through hoops
    or doing in-dept research to even making changes to the register/library. However it is still limited.
    Because if you have "pending updates" Windows could possibly undo changes.

    Beyond the above mentioned solutions

    1. Turn off Windows Updates, in fact turn off anything that automatically updates.
    2. Turn off your Windows Security settings ( the one that scans your installs, it is just silly if I make a change to
    one file, Win11 tells me like if I am a child "blah blah dangerour blah blah change it back ?" ). Firewall is okay.
    3.. do some reading. and download anything that might be missing. Take the Home version.
    4. Check out the

    A. Services.msc ( service, usually means almost anything classed as a service
    B. Tasksch ( scheduler can make anything turn on and is meant for the end-user, like setting up something to play a song or open an image via #$@$#@$ setting )
    C. resmon.msc can give a good detail of what process is running and for what purpose.
    CA. rammap is a 3rd-party tool like Resmon and you can clear some memory like "stand-by" but after a time it becomes problematic. Good to view you ram in general.
    CB. Process Hacker II - is a "Taskbar replacement" simular to rammap and resmon, but works more like "EnditAll" or "KillAll".
    D. Startup enviorment within the Taskbar )
    E. Register/Library. ( !! warning!! you have to know what you are looking for ). The OS core.

    5. Look for a solution to "Update Windows components Offline". Be aware to go into detail of
    each component, since these updates might actually be downgrades. Take the "Remove Flash"
    Update.
    6. As with restoring flash, some updates will not work because a specific file ( a program used
    with the updates ) is too old or too new, you have to replace that file. Usually while the OS is
    off.
    7. Some changes you will need to do via the command-line-prompt ( AKA CMD or Powershell ).
    You literally could do everything from the cmd-line via the F8 menu and then again before you log
    into whichever account.


    .................

    Things you can not get around.
    1. When you install a new program, or have compatibility issues a type of telemetry will
    come on momentarily to assist with installation, and then go back to sleep afterwards.
    2. When you install or reinstall specific components they will restart telemetry.
    3. I am using 2004 model and my understanding continuing down that line you will have
    installs that can not be turned off or triggers back on. However that is opinion.

    ..................................

    About anti-virus blah blah software. Windows Defender is real nice and all but in all honestly I prefer
    3rd-party installs that have all the "definitions" pre-installed.

    A. SmaDav - I trust small businesses rather then big-business. I ran it and it cleared tons of issues. But I still keep it off.
    B. Malewarebytes - this was the best but now it is a subscription, only through ver 6. is the standard but that could change.
    C. Virustotal - Is an online scanner that informs you of the actual threat. I am not too sure about computer scanner but
    it is able to identify virus definitions even if they are disguised as system processes. However it might be less private
    then lothers mentioned.
    D. Windows Defender ( silver walled etc ) - is okay but they protect software vendors rather then the end-user.

    Beyond that you have to actually be aware what you install and how it is actually functioning. Sometimes a virus buster might remove possibly spyware/malware/trojans, etc but other times you have to actually do some research and know what to look for. Like those fake websites for example, claiming to be a piece of software.
    Last edited by Daymin; 08 Jun 2023 at 13:04.
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  7. Posts : 431
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       #17

    Daymin said:

    0A. do a search for "Windows 10 Ameliorated" ....
    Hello Daymin,

    Thank you for your extensive reply and humor of anecdotal "facts" image!
    I never heard of Windows 10 Ameliorated and I will look into it, sounds interesting.
    I'm familiar with and have installed "O&O shut up".
    The problem is that any update or even in some cases secretly sneakily re-enables certain settings.

    In the meantime I found some registry settings that could/should help and I'm currently testing it out. So far so good.
    this seems to be an interesting one:
    Code:
    reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options\CompatTelRunner.exe" /v Debugger /t REG_SZ /d "%windir%\System32\taskkill.exe" /f
    One bothersome actually disturbing thing I discovered is, when I, for a temporary measure briefly set antivirus & system security ESET to block ALL NETWORK TRAFFIC, I had to discover that the Windows OS circumvents all that and still connected out/inbound!
    Hello NSA, CIA, FBI what have you...
    So there is apparently a "backdoor" of sorts that is wide open to certain companies and probably organizations...

    Facts are that A) the enterprise edition is quite different in this matter for obvious reasons. Then again corporations have far more money and lawyers than small businesses and the consumer suckers.

    On another note, many years ago I read that the Chinese gave Microsoft a list of demands what the Chinese words and can and cannot do.
    Of course Microsoft, one of the many American corporate sellout whores complied.
    I wonder what [espionage] access the Chinese have to at least the Chinese OS...
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  8. Posts : 1,728
    Windows 10 Pro x64 22H2
       #18

    @3Bit

    To disable windows telemetry follow these steps:

    1. Click on start button
    2. Type gpedit.msc
    3. Right click on gpedit.msc and open as Administrator
    4. Type admin password if prompted
    5. Expand the following node:
    Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Data Collection and Preview Builds
    6. In the right side double click on "Allow Telemetry" item
    7. Select enabled and under options choose "1 - Required" from drop down list and click OK
    8. Right click on start button and select Windows PowerShell (Admin)
    9. type gpupdate.exe and press enter

    Next step is to block outbound telemetry traffic as follows.
    Into the PowerShell console that you opened create rules to block telemetry traffic,
    Copy the following codes one by one, right click into the console to paste and press enter for each:

    Code:
    New-NetFirewallRule -DisplayName "Customer Experience Improvement Program" -PolicyStore PersistentStore `
    	-Program "%SystemRoot%\System32\wsqmcons.exe" -Group "Block Telemetry" `
    	-Enabled True -Action Block -Direction Outbound -Protocol TCP `
    	-RemoteAddress Internet4 -RemotePort 80, 443
    Code:
    New-NetFirewallRule -DisplayName "Microsoft Compatibility Telemetry" -PolicyStore PersistentStore `
    	-Program "%SystemRoot%\System32\CompatTelRunner.exe" -Group "Block Telemetry" `
    	-Enabled True -Action Block -Direction Outbound -Protocol TCP `
    	-RemoteAddress Internet4 -RemotePort 443
    Code:
    New-NetFirewallRule -DisplayName "Connected User Experiences and Telemetry" -PolicyStore PersistentStore `
    	-Service DiagTrack -Program %SystemRoot%\System32\svchost.exe -Group "Block Telemetry" `
    	-Enabled True -Action Block -Direction Outbound -Protocol TCP `
    	-RemoteAddress Internet4 -RemotePort 443 `
    Again type gpupdate.exe and press enter.

    If you ever change your mind and want to restore to allow telemetry for what ever reason, you can find these newly created rules in Windows firewall in control panel, simply right click each in UI and delete them.
    To restore group policy setting, set it to "Not Configured".
    Then apply changes with gpupdate.exe
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  9. Posts : 380
    Windows 10
       #19

    3Bit said:
    Hello Daymin,
    Hello NSA, CIA, FBI what have you...
    So there is apparently a "backdoor" of sorts that is wide open to certain companies and probably organizations...
    Do not be paranoid as your not doing anything wrong so you should not feel anything. There is no "Lord of rings"
    mentality when it comes to computers. As with any appliances it has it's usage. You think that is funny try blocking specific
    IP addresses and watch it eventually zero out to BigBen.

    Facts are that A) the enterprise edition is quite different in this matter for obvious reasons. Then again corporations have far more money and lawyers than small businesses and the consumer suckers.
    You get what you paid for v. knowledge is power. Freedom or Security. Even if you paid for whatever chances are it might not be of any use to the end-user. We are talking about a person who are working in rooms filled with databases. Not a person
    with a $500 PC from Walmart/Costco.

    On another note, many years ago I read that the Chinese gave Microsoft a list of demands what the Chinese words and can and cannot do.
    Of course Microsoft, one of the many American corporate sellout whores complied.
    I wonder what [espionage] access the Chinese have to at least the Chinese OS...
    Windows is actually and possibly the most fair and up to date OS we have beyond Unix clones. MOS9 is dead and everything else is Unix in some other forum or another. Do not bash Microsoft at all, Bill Gates is actually a good father in comparison to Steve Jobs ( go read the book "Small Fry" ). Windows might not be perfect but it is well balanced and a more decent platform.
    Yes as a programmer a good chance somebody will demand you to work within a Unix environment but beyond that Windows is the only environment that is not Unix. Also do not look at Windows 11, so far they have nothing to do boot that could not be achieved on W10. Even XP-64 is an ideal operating system. Also the Chinese ( consumer wise ) are living in the 1990's in my opinion, while our future world is ever so grim.
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  10. Posts : 5,486
    Windows 11 Home
       #20

    Steve C said:
    Only disconnecting from the internet will work!
    Disabling "Network Store Interface Service" will do just that, disabling active internet probing helps too.
    Once DNS servers are setup manually, that service is no longer needed for internet, just for Windows.
    Code:
    reg add "HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\nsi" /v "Start" /t REG_DWORD /d "4" /f
    reg add "HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\NetworkConnectivityStatusIndicator" /v "NoActiveProbe" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
    reg add "HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\NlaSvc\Parameters\Internet" /v "EnableActiveProbing" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
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