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  1. Posts : 2,235
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit v23H2
       #11

    Megahertz said:
    I used C: *.exe and it found 4045 files. My version is to install and indexed.



    I have Office 2010 on Win 7 and Office 2019 on Win 10 and Normal.dot and now is Normal.dotm and Normal.dotx and it is on C:\Users\Luiz\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates
    The OP was asking about Word 97. The location of the Word template is the same for Word 97, 2000, 2002, and 2003. Starting with Word 2007 the template location is in a completely different location.

    BTW, I have Word 95, 97, 2003, 2007, 2010, 2013, 2019, and 2021 so am well aware of the differences.
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  2. Posts : 142
    10.0.19045, build 19045
    Thread Starter
       #12

    Re: old version of Ransack, will check out link. Thanks.

    Megahertz:
    C:\Users\Luiz\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates
    I have this directory (except Luiz is myUser), but directory is empty.

    MisterEd.
    1. As previously stated, I have "hidden files and folders" Checked.
    2. C:\Documents and Setting is NOT under Windows 10 (at least not on my system, running Win10 Pro).
    3. I reindex Explorer and get *.exe files but NOT *.dot. What I'm wondering is whether under Word97, MS$ put all templates into one file which has a different extension?
    Since your familiar with Word-97, what I wanted to do was delete some of the old templates I created. Could find a way in Word hence trying to go through Explorer.
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  3. Posts : 2,235
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit v23H2
       #13

    dw85745 said:
    Re: old version of Ransack, will check out link. Thanks.

    Megahertz:


    I have this directory (except Luiz is myUser), but directory is empty.

    MisterEd.
    1. As previously stated, I have "hidden files and folders" Checked.
    2. C:\Documents and Setting is NOT under Windows 10 (at least not on my system, running Win10 Pro).
    3. I reindex Explorer and get *.exe files but NOT *.dot. What I'm wondering is whether under Word97, MS$ put all templates into one file which has a different extension?
    Since your familiar with Word-97, what I wanted to do was delete some of the old templates I created. Could find a way in Word hence trying to go through Explorer.
    I never figured anyone would install such an ancient version of Office in Windows 10. However, I am up for a challenge. I installed Office 97 Pro on Windows 10. I found the location of user templates for Word 97 installed on Windows 10.

    The problem with putting such an old version of Office on a modern versions of Windows is that Windows has to have a way to accommodate things that no longer exist. You will see how it did it from my results.

    Summary of Results

    Windows XP with user named User
    User folder: C:\Documents and Settings\User
    Template folder (Options menu): C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates
    Template folder (actual location): C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates

    Windows 10 with user named User
    User folder: C:\Users\User
    Template folder (Options menu): C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office\Templates
    Template folder (actual location): C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office\Templates

    I found the normal included templates in the usual location in Tools > Options > File Locations

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    This template folder in File Explorer

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    I created a user template and saved it. Unfortunately, it didn't get saved to the expected template folder.
    Since I knew the name of the user template I search for it. I found it in the folder as follows. Note Normal.dot is there also.

    Show Hidden Files and Folders-template3.jpg
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  4. Posts : 142
    10.0.19045, build 19045
    Thread Starter
       #14

    MisterEd:
    1) Can't THANK YOU enough. That is exactly where the *.dot files are located.

    2) While I've programmed for years, never gave a thought to:
    The problem with putting such an old version of Office on a modern versions of Windows is that Windows has to have a way to accommodate things that no longer exist
    So one is never to old to learn something new.

    3) Most interesting is Windows Explorer itself. I did a complete reindexing, so everything should be OK.
    When searching from C:\ for "*.dot" I stil get nothing found.
    However, if I move the search criteria to User, the *.dot files are now found. Go Figure?

    NOTE
    I just checked and one can at least rename a Template and have it show up in the Word Template list. I wasn't sure whether M$ was rebuliding their list from the Folder files or keep a separate index list. Haven't tried deleting one yet.
    So at least a workaround since WORd-97 does NOT accommodate Renaming or Deleting Templates.

    QUESTION:
    Periodically I get notified that Normal.dot is corrupted. I imagine it is using the one in Win-10 directory you identified instead of the one located in "C:|Program FIles\ ...."
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  5. Posts : 2,235
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit v23H2
       #15

    dw85745 said:
    MisterEd:
    1) Can't THANK YOU enough. That is exactly where the *.dot files are located.

    2) While I've programmed for years, never gave a thought to:

    So one is never to old to learn something new.

    3) Most interesting is Windows Explorer itself. I did a complete reindexing, so everything should be OK.
    When searching from C:\ for "*.dot" I stil get nothing found.
    However, if I move the search criteria to User, the *.dot files are now found. Go Figure?

    NOTE
    I just checked and one can at least rename a Template and have it show up in the Word Template list. I wasn't sure whether M$ was rebuliding their list from the Folder files or keep a separate index list. Haven't tried deleting one yet.
    So at least a workaround since WORd-97 does NOT accommodate Renaming or Deleting Templates.

    QUESTION:
    Periodically I get notified that Normal.dot is corrupted. I imagine it is using the one in Win-10 directory you identified instead of the one located in "C:|Program FIles\ ...."
    User templates and Normal.dot are in the user AppData folder tree. The AppData folder is normally hidden. In folder options did you select "Show hidden files and folders" before you started searching for the ".dot" files?

    If the Normal.dot becomes corrupt or you want to remove all changes you made to it and return it back to the defaults then all you have to do is delete it. Word will then recreate it to the way it was when Word was installed.

    Back in 2012 I was taking college classes for Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Access. We were using University Office (which was essentially Office 2010 Pro). Before the classes started I also installed Office 2003 Pro to compare it with Office 2010 Pro.

    When I was taking the Word 2010 class I couldn't figure out why the options shown and the results didn't match the expected ones. I finally realized that Word 2010 was using the Normal.dot template for Word 2003. After I deleted Normal.dot it was recreated with the correct one for Word 2010.
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  6. Posts : 282
    Windows 10 Pro
       #16

    dw85745 said:
    F22 Simpilot and Megahertz: Just tried Everything just looking for *.exe in c:\ using Advanced Search.. Got 0 objects. Did NOT install, ran from zip and elected NOT to let Administrator index. SO either I'm doing something wrong or indexing is required.
    Admin needs to index or you install Everything's service. The choice is yours. It'll first index what's connected to the computer in relative short time. Now in the search box enter *.dot. Once you learn this you can move onto bigger things and really take Everything for a spin.
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