Any Advanced User to help with this problem?!!!

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  1. Posts : 2,987
    Windows 10 Pro for the Bro
       #11

    formingus said:
    This did not solve the problem either! Thanks for trying to help. Regards
    You're welcome.
    I'll look around some more on the internet for other possible suggestions that I can find. Hopefully we can find the fix pretty soon =)
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  2. Posts : 758
    Windows 10/11
       #12

    formingus said:
    About In-Place Repair, Why I am trying to solve this error is because i have a bunch of software that i need to work a few days to replace, including phone drivers, etc. Is there a possible way to repair WO need to Reinstall or Format my PC.?
    The in-place repair will keep all of your existing applications and settings. There's a lot of text in that tutorial and it starts by mentioning the options that do not keep your apps, but read on and you'll see that it says "You will keep all apps, programs and personal data, just as when you upgrade, as an in-place upgrade repair uses the same basic mechanism as when you upgrade."
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  3. Posts : 43,294
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #13

    About In-Place Repair, Why I am trying to solve this error is because i have a bunch of software that i need to work a few days to replace, including phone drivers, etc. Is there a possible way to repair WO need to Reinstall or Format my PC.?
    Do you worry about losing programs when you update or upgrade your PC?
    Probably not.

    Do you realise that an in-place upgrade repair install is NOT reinstalling Windows?
    It is like an upgrade process as far as the mechanics are concerned- but it takes Windows back within the current major build to the build number of the disk or iso file used.

    It's a repair procedure. Not a complete replacement. Windows.old is created, just like in a major upgrade.

    So... once again... my short form instructions... and you came here for recommendations and you got the same from 2 people and rejected them...
    a. Download iso file for same major build (use MS media creation tool) - see tutorial if needed.
    b. Rt click iso file, click Mount
    c. Open new drive letter created.
    d. Double click setup.exe

    N.B. I still don't see an answer to this from my first post:
    Hi,
    - when did you notice this first?
    - what happened before that?

    If this happened recently, have you tried using a System Restore point created before this problem arose?
    And note: if you had been using 3rd party disk imaging as we ENDLESSLY recommend, and this problem started after something you did - then havind a recent disk image would give you another option to get things back as they were when you created the most recent image.

    And you could have done either of those yourself without turning to the forum... provided you had either a suitable restore point or a disk image.
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  4. Posts : 2,987
    Windows 10 Pro for the Bro
       #14

    Regarding the other replies in this thread:
    It seems that the thread starter, formingus, is hesitant about doing the in-place upgrade. I can completely understand that from him, because if I was him, then that is the last thing that I would want to do. I would really prefer to find a solution for that specific issue instead. I would not want to go with the possibility of having the computer settings all reset. Because that's what's going to happen. All custom computer settings will reset to default. I have many customizations on my computer, and if I had this same problem like formingus is experiencing, then I would really want to find a solution for this problem only, and NOT have my computer settings reset back to default after an in-place upgrade.
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  5. Posts : 159
    Windows 10 Pr
       #15

    formingus said:
    My Computer Properties or Management will not open via Right Click, Change adapter settings from the sys menu either

    @formingus an in place repair is a great idea. I am someone that hates clean installs and reinstalls etc, but the "in place repair" does not change all your programs and settings. If you tweak windows a bunch it will put that stuff back to default mostly but all your personal stuff will be fine. these guys know what they are talking about. You will be pleasantly surprised how much the inplace repair will do, your system will probably be running way better. Just be sure to follow the simple tutorial and you will be happy . Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade
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  6. Posts : 43,294
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #16

    @pepanee- the idea of providing a specific 'magic' instant fix for each and every problem for every user within, say, the first 3 responses is a fantastic idea - and for free too!! I'd be very happy if every thread was resolved like that.

    But do note how formingus has evaded my question about the relevance of System Restore here... if that was appropriate and worked here- great. Solved.

    Of course, we don't know how the PC came to be in this unusual state.
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  7. Posts : 17
    Win 10
    Thread Starter
       #17

    LesFerch said:
    The in-place repair will keep all of your existing applications and settings. There's a lot of text in that tutorial and it starts by mentioning the options that do not keep your apps, but read on and you'll see that it says "You will keep all apps, programs and personal data, just as when you upgrade, as an in-place upgrade repair uses the same basic mechanism as when you upgrade."
    Didnt know that it will keep apps, i though that will keep only documents - Will read more about it, backup just in case , then as last solution will try that

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    pepanee said:
    Regarding the other replies in this thread:
    It seems that the thread starter, formingus, is hesitant about doing the in-place upgrade. I can completely understand that from him, because if I was him, then that is the last thing that I would want to do. I would really prefer to find a solution for that specific issue instead. I would not want to go with the possibility of having the computer settings all reset. Because that's what's going to happen. All custom computer settings will reset to default. I have many customizations on my computer, and if I had this same problem like formingus is experiencing, then I would really want to find a solution for this problem only, and NOT have my computer settings reset back to default after an in-place upgrade.
    Totally Correct. I am at GSM PC Bussines and belive or not sometimes i need a month and more to return PC at state that i need for Hardware, unlocking etc. Its not just simple reinstallation. Thanks

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    dalchina said:
    Do you worry about losing programs when you update or upgrade your PC?
    Probably not.

    Do you realise that an in-place upgrade repair install is NOT reinstalling Windows?
    It is like an upgrade process as far as the mechanics are concerned- but it takes Windows back within the current major build to the build number of the disk or iso file used.

    It's a repair procedure. Not a complete replacement. Windows.old is created, just like in a major upgrade.

    So... once again... my short form instructions... and you came here for recommendations and you got the same from 2 people and rejected them...
    a. Download iso file for same major build (use MS media creation tool) - see tutorial if needed.
    b. Rt click iso file, click Mount
    c. Open new drive letter created.
    d. Double click setup.exe

    N.B. I still don't see an answer to this from my first post:


    And note: if you had been using 3rd party disk imaging as we ENDLESSLY recommend, and this problem started after something you did - then havind a recent disk image would give you another option to get things back as they were when you created the most recent image.

    And you could have done either of those yourself without turning to the forum... provided you had either a suitable restore point or a disk image.
    Sorry, i thnk i answer.

    Hi,
    - when did you notice this first? - I can not be sure, there is a bunch of software that i install after reinstalling the OS
    - what happened before that? - Nothing happens, simple when I need a device manager i go thru the properties, but once i try, it does not work. What i have been noticed that after a fresh installation of Windows, it works,

    Yes, i did use the Backup image via Acronis, but problem is that i have a backup after Sistem is ready for work, and in this case even after restoring the problem is still there because obviously i backed up while this error was present.

    If this happened recently, have you tried using a System Restore point created before this problem arose? - No,i dont have System Restore, it was turned OFF

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    dalchina said:
    @pepanee- the idea of providing a specific 'magic' instant fix for each and every problem for every user within, say, the first 3 responses is a fantastic idea - and for free too!! I'd be very happy if every thread was resolved like that.

    But do note how formingus has evaded my question about the relevance of System Restore here... if that was appropriate and worked here- great. Solved.

    Of course, we don't know how the PC came to be in this unusual state.
    I don't know either, my opinion is that the software is blocking it. I have at last 100 Software on my PC - What i can do is Reinstall Windows and then installing Software 1 by 1 , and on each install to double check (but need a lot of time)

    System Restore is Turned OFF - Or more clearly I am deleting restore points to save space, then creating only One System Restore, and in this case System Restore will not help because its created including error, same as Acronis Disk Image. Thanks for Replay
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  8. Posts : 43,294
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #18

    1. Imaging Did you know that when using disk imaging, you can create a series of images at different dates, conveniently, by using e.g.

    a. You first full image
    b. differential image (smaller, faster) representing the difference between 'now' and (a).

    If you have e.g. a full image, and a series of, say, 6 differential images, you have 7 different dates to which you can restore the imaged system or partitions.

    2. System Restore
    Or more clearly I am deleting restore points to save space, then creating only One System Restore
    There's absolutely no need to intervene like that. Simply set the space available for System Restore, and no more than that will be used.

    If you are tight on space on C: then see the appropriate tutorial and threads about how to release space on C:
    Or extend C: if you have unallocated space on disk
    Or get a bigger disk.

    I have a 256Gb SSD, over 200 programs installed:
    Any Advanced User to help with this problem?!!!-1.jpg

    3. Upgrade considerations. Note that any major upgrade will duplicate much of your Windows partition (as Windows.old) so you would need, say. 30Gb or more free on C: to complete an upgrade, and then still need free working space for normal use.
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  9. Posts : 17
    Win 10
    Thread Starter
       #19

    dalchina said:
    1. Imaging Did you know that when using disk imaging, you can create a series of images at different dates, conveniently, by using e.g.

    a. You first full image
    b. differential image (smaller, faster) representing the difference between 'now' and (a).

    If you have e.g. a full image, and a series of, say, 6 differential images, you have 7 different dates to which you can restore the imaged system or partitions.

    2. System Restore

    There's absolutely no need to intervene like that. Simply set the space available for System Restore, and no more than that will be used.

    If you are tight on space on C: then see the appropriate tutorial and threads about how to release space on C:
    Or extend C: if you have unallocated space on disk
    Or get a bigger disk.

    I have a 256Gb SSD, over 200 programs installed:
    Any Advanced User to help with this problem?!!!-1.jpg

    3. Upgrade considerations. Note that any major upgrade will duplicate much of your Windows partition (as Windows.old) so you would need, say. 30Gb or more free on C: to complete an upgrade, and then still need free working space for normal use.
    1. Yes, i do know for incremental backup, but once i have a small problem and decide to do full backup instead. While we are in this topic, which software do you use and work great for incremental backup for you?

    2. Deleting System restore is more kinda mind physical relaxation, i don't have a problem with space. But thank you for your advice, i will put 5GB of System restore as a limit and will not delete in the future.

    3. I did what you suggest, So downloaded ISO, Setup, Follow the Instructions, and Upgraded but the problem still remains.

    As far I see, it will be some software or Driver that causes this issue. When i will be free on time, i will Reinstall a fresh copy of Windows, then will install the needed software one by one, when (and if) the problem occurs again i will keep a note and come back to this thread and post the reason, maybe will help some other member and avoid full reinstallation.

    Thanks to all of you guys that were ready to help and give gr8 pieces of advice.. Regards
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  10. Posts : 43,294
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #20

    As far I see, it will be some software or Driver that causes this issue.
    Hi, if you wish, you can do this on a trial basis without affecting your present installation.

    a. You could use e.g. Virtual Box (free) to create a virtual machine, install Win 10 as a VM, and have an instance of Win 10 running in a window under Windows 10.

    Now, if you suspect one of the programs you installed of having had this effect this could be
    a. when it's installed (a but unlikely, as users would surely complain)
    b. when it's used (e.g. a cleaner of sime kind).

    Now you can discount all common programs - for example Office programs, media players... so you'd be looking for very much less common ones- unusual ones.

    If you look through your list of installed programs only a very few are likey to stand out.

    Now if the problem arises after e.g. using some cleaning program in a particular way, there's no guarantee that you will reproduce whatever you did.

    Because it may be quite hard to reproduce what caused this, I really don't recommend you clean install Win 10 in place of what you have now.

    b. Replace the system disk with a spare disk and experiment with that.
    Advantage- completely isolated from your present installation.

    c. Rely on a disk image of what you have now, and clean install on the same disk.
    Probably the worst of the 3 options.

    While we are in this topic, which software do you use and work great for incremental backup for you?
    I use Macrium Reflect - still only use differential imaging. I've only rarely need to restore partitions.
    Incremental imaging with that is available of course (paid version)

    The free version is still available e.g.
    Download Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - MajorGeeks
    but only supported until Jan '24

    Aomei Backupper is available in free and paid versions.

    There are others- O&O DiskImage (paid or giveaway) would probably be my next choice.
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