Enlighten me about UEFI, GPT, and CSM=disabled?

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  1. Posts : 274
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       #11

    OK, I got to feeling ambitious and tried again from scratch. CSM=disabled, GPT disk, etc. This time the hibernation thing is behaving normally again and was easy to disable. I must have borked a setting or tweaked too hard before or something and broke it. Resize-bar/SmartAccess Memory is working and all seems good. Will keep it like this and try to learn/get used to UEFI. I'll have to relearn how to make my bootable USB tools and Macrium rescue disk. My Macrium bootable CD works fine, but who uses optical disks any more?!?! Would be nice if the Macrium iso could just be extracted to a GPT formatted USB drive and have it boot, like the Windows iso does...we shall see (edit: that worked). Better yet would be to make a flash drive full of iso's and a grub boot loader like I used to do, but I don't think that will work with GPT/UEFI. Time to go try out Ventoy and see how it does on pure UEFI.
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       #12

    Quexos said:
    Would be nice if the Macrium iso could just be extracted to a GPT formatted USB drive and have it boot, like the Windows iso does...we shall see (edit: that worked). Better yet would be to make a flash drive full of iso's and a grub boot loader like I used to do, but I don't think that will work with GPT/UEFI. Time to go try out Ventoy and see how it does on pure UEFI.
    You can copy all files and folders from a iso or CD / DVD to a USB drive that has been prepared as below:
    Open a CMD window as administrator and type:

    diskpart
    list disk (it will list all drives. Identify the USB drive number)
    select disk n (replace n by the USB drive number obtained with list disk)
    clean
    convert mbr
    create part primary
    select part 1
    format fs=fat32 quick
    assign
    active
    exit (to exit diskpart)

    And Ventoy can also be used to boot as UEFI.
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  3. Posts : 274
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       #13

    Megahertz said:
    You can copy all files and folders from a iso or CD / DVD to a USB drive that has been prepared as below:

    *snip for brevity*

    And Ventoy can also be used to boot as UEFI.
    With CSM disabled (100% UEFI), the old active/mbr way does not seem to work, so I went GPT and Macrium (extracted iso) is bootable that way. Ventoy seems to work really well too for multiple isos on one bootable flash drive, except certain ISO's I used to use no longer work. Anything from Acronis, True Image and Disk Director fail to boot with errors about invalid parameters (for display I believe), but I can live without those two programs. Macrium and a few Linux iso's are working well with a Ventoy GPT/ExFat flash drive.
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  4. Posts : 274
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       #14

    Okay, this one has me stumped. When switching to UEFI + GPT during a clean install, Windows is stuck in 800x600 resolution and options are grayed out. If CSM=enabled, MBR it is 19020x1080, as it should be.

    Installing the monitor driver does not fix it, but installing the graphics driver does...BUT there are many things I want to get done so I can make a "fresh/minimal" backup image before installing graphics drivers, not to mention 800x600 is almost unusable to even get drivers installed, half of Windows own dialogs are off screen (Next/OK/Apply button type stuff).

    Does anyone know what causes this? Maybe some UEFI/BIOS option I need to turn on? Also, the BIOS itself, or using a bootable tool, like Macrium works in 1920x1080, just not Windows.

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    Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit 22H2
       #15

    If you install Macrium Reflect to a computer, you can make a Bootable USB Flash drive, much like your bootable DVD that would solve your problem.
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  6. Posts : 274
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       #16

    I have no idea what you're talking about. I have a bootable flash drive with Macrium, Windows, Linux, etc., etc. on it. I have no problem installing Windows or anything else I want, in MBR or GPT. The remaining problem is Windows, when in UEFI/GPT mode, runs at 800x600 resolution making it stupid hard to do hours of configurations once installed. I'm trying to figure out why with all this modern stuff, UEFI is still such a PITA! I assume it (Windows) is not "seeing" some UEFI firmware for the graphics card? All this new hardware and still I can't even get a native, or at least usable resolution without installing Radeon drivers first? But it works at 1920x1080 in the BIOS or Linux, or from the Macrium bootable rescue disk.

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  7. Posts : 2,799
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       #17

    Am i correct to assume that you have both CSM and UEFI enabled in the UEFI firmware ? If so, disable CSM to ensure that the UEFI video (GOP) driver is operational.
    With CSM enabled, the UEFI firmware is operating in emulated legacy BIOS mode.
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  8. Posts : 1,211
    Windows 10
       #18

    Windows basic display driver inherits the settings from the UEFI frame buffer used at boot so like if you are saying that the display looks in the correct resolution at boot but it changes once at the windows desktop.

    i would be looking to see which basic driver is being used. You might be getting forced into the basic VGA driver. Although when booting in UEFI it should be native resolution that is forced when you get to windows because of the UEFI boot.

    I cannot think of the top of my head how to check the driver and i have to do IRL atm, but i would be looking at what driver the graphics card is using.

    Bcedit also comes to mind and an area that could cause issues like the one you are describing.
    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...t/bcdedit--set
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  9. Posts : 274
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       #19

    CSM=Disabled, 100% UEFI. Bois resolution is 1920x1080, as is a Linux live boot ISO or Macrium that boots Windows PE. Windows install starts in 1920x1080 then switches to 800x600 after the first reboot during install. The default Windows driver was called Microsoft Basic Display Adapter.
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  10. Posts : 1,211
    Windows 10
       #20

    i noticed just now that you are dual booting with Linux i was skim reading earlier had to go out. What boot loader are you using?

    For example if you where using grub then you would probably want to disable these boot settings in the loader.

    vga=off
    video=vesafb:off
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