Windows 10 and Windows 11

Bree · 28 Apr 2022

WinUserII said:

There is two popular choices, VMWare and VirtualBox, personally i like VirtualBox....

VitualBox has another advantage over VMWare, if you use Macrium Reflect that is. Macrium Reflect Free includes viBoot, which allows you to boot a Macrium Reflect image as a virtual machine. This supports using Hyper-V or VirtusalBox, but not VMWare.

Macrium Software | Macrium viBoot

Pejole2165 · 28 Apr 2022

Another opinion of Win 11.

It is no more or less "spyware" than 10,
It is no more or less "bloatware" than 10,
It is no more or less worse for privacy than 10,
Performance is hardware and software dependent and somewhat subjective, it is no more or less performant than 10 on similar devices,
Stability is hardware and software dependent, it is no more or less stable than 10 on similar devices,
The new UI and icons being ugly or nice is totally subjective,
Navigating through menus needing more clicks is mostly due to more options being available in some areas, for the most part there are the same number of clicks to get through menus as Win 10,
Running Win11 in a VM is going to impact performance, as a method of trying an OS to see what it offers, fine, for measuring performance, not the best way.

Personal experience, I have been using Win11 since launch, clean installed, and have had zero issues with it. The interface is fine, it runs as well as or better than Win10 did, I am using an 8th gen i5 8400.

The only way to see if you will like Win11 is to run it and make your own mind up, everyone will have a different experience based on their usage, device and personal preferences.

hsehestedt · 28 Apr 2022

I'll just add my personal experiences with Windows 11:

I have a number of systems ranging from somewhere in neighborhood of 12 years old all the way up to 11th gen Intel CPU. Only two of my systems are technically on the nice list for Windows 11, all the others are not. However, I find that Windows 11 runs every bit as well on all these systems as Windows 10 did, if not better.

Bottom line: Don't be afraid to experiment. Chances of a good experience are very high. The only real question then is whether you like what Microsoft has done with the UI or if you absolutely hate it enough to make you want to go back to Windows 10

. Personally, I really like it but with a few small items that really bug me but that I can cope with.

csun · 28 Apr 2022

comcom said:

I am using a PC about bought about 12 years ago. I am using Windows 10 now.

1) Will my PC support Windows 11, will upgrading to Windows 11 be successful, what to take note before updating to Windows 11, will all programs continue to work in Windows 11?

2) What is the pro vs cons of using Windows 10 vs Windows 11?

3) I am happy with Windows 10, can I use it forever without updating? When will updates for Windows 10 end?

4) When will free update to Windows 11 end?

Thanks

Food for thought:

“The processors supported on Windows 11 are within OEM and IHV support and use modern (DCH) drivers. The move to modern drivers enables drivers and associated software to be installed and serviced in a coordinated manner through Windows Update and provides better mechanisms for tracking driver health. The result of this coordination is that system drivers are properly installed and functional after updates, providing a reliable experience when upgraded to Windows 11,” Microsoft originally said.

“From Windows Insider machines, those that did not meet the minimum system requirements had 52% more kernel mode crashes (blue screens) than those that did meet the requirements. Machines that met the requirements provided a 99.8% crash-free experience that is effectively managed by OEMs and IHVs through modern driver update management. Additionally, on unsupported hardware app hangs are 17% more likely and for first-party apps we see 43% more crashes.”

Microsoft Caught Running Windows 11 on an Unsupported Device

Bree · 28 Apr 2022

csun said:

...those that did not meet the minimum system requirements had 52% more kernel mode crashes (blue screens) than those that did meet the requirements. Machines that met the requirements provided a 99.8% crash-free experience....

That statement from Microsoft is disingenuous.

Do the maths, you'll see that those figures actually mean that machines that did not meet the minimum requirements had a 99.7% crash-free experience.

Pejole2165 · 28 Apr 2022

Also what sample size? They say from insiders machines, does that mean all insiders or just a percentage?
When you think that there are several millions of devices running some form of Windows then in order to test a new OS properly you would need a sample size magnitudes larger than the insider user base, otherwise your figures are meaningless.