Want to express appreciation to everyone in this forum

EyeInTheSky · 12 Apr 2022

@AK6DN

Thank you for your reply about what 0patch specifically does.
I’m still not even sure if I can bypass the requirements of Windows 11 by following the instructions that @Try3 supplied on ElevenForum.

I’m quite certain that since that method went public about bypassing the requirements Windows 11 requires, Microsoft is hard at work making sure those systems will fail further down the road by some microcode process that can’t be overridden.

To me, it just seems like pirating a copy of Windows 11 and inserting a line of code to fool the esd download into believing it is installing on a capable computer although a new security key is not needed.

I don’t know, because I don’t have old spare computers lying around to see if Microsoft drops a bomb on the systems running Windows 11 when in fact, technically they shouldn’t be.

You folks that have spare old computers lying around to test this are lucky because it is no loss to you when Microsoft throws their hooks in a well laid bypass method.

Try3 · 12 Apr 2022

EyeInTheSky said:

Do you think I could still install Windows 11 on this lost cause of a computer?

Well, I managed to in my Dell Inspiron 1545 from 2010.
You might not be satisfied by its performance so do make a system image beforehand so you have the option of returning to Windows 10.

I upgraded to Windows 11 on that one computer so I could have a testbed to check that my applications would run and so that I could check that my various scripts behave in the same way in Windows 11 [MS does a poor job of documenting Windows commands as they evolve so the only reliable test is to try it & see]. It was a fairly run-of-the-mill computer even when it was new.

And do bear in mind that there is no hurry. 2025 is a long way away.

Best of luck,
Denis

EyeInTheSky · 12 Apr 2022

Try3 said:

And do bear in mind that there is no hurry. 2025 is a long way away.

Agreed; however, I did look further into the bypass method and I understand everything except the part where processors come in. If you looked at my system specs above, you'll notice that my processor is in the 2700 Mhz range, and Windows 11 requires a processor capable in the 1 gigahertz (GHz) range.

That I believe right there would stop me in my tracks from installing Windows 11 because all the tutorials reference only bypassing the CPU, TPM and RAM requirements. They speak nothing of bypassing the processor requirements that I could tell so far.

Compumind · 12 Apr 2022

Bree said:

You know, I feel exactly the same way. I have learned so much from others here since I joined Ten Forums, and I was an IT professional before I retired.

Couldn't have said it better, though I'm not retired just yet.

Bree · 12 Apr 2022

EyeInTheSky said:

Do you think I could still install Windows 11 on this lost cause of a computer?

If I can install 11 on this, then you can install it on anything.

When W11 was first leaked I tested installing it on the least appropriate hardware I could find, my little Acer Aspire One D270 netbook.... Today I revisited that using the current latest RTM build 22000.527. Still works fine, albeit a little sluggish - no 64-bit OS should be asked to run in just 2GB of RAM

Let's install Windows 11 on a incompatible hardware | Page 36 | Windows 11 Forum

A more practical example, and quite useable with W11, is System Two in my Eleven Forum specs, a 2010 machine with a 1st gen i5.

Mcd73165 · 12 Apr 2022

This is a great forum with so many really smart people. I, as others have said, have learned so much from this forum. So, thanks to everyone here!
Mark

Try3 · 12 Apr 2022

EyeInTheSky said:

Agreed; however, I did look further into the bypass method and I understand everything except the part where processors come in. If you looked at my system specs above, you'll notice that my processor is in the 2700 Mhz range, and Windows 11 requires a processor capable in the 1 gigahertz (GHz) range.

That I believe right there would stop me in my tracks from installing Windows 11 because all the tutorials reference only bypassing the CPU, TPM and RAM requirements. They speak nothing of bypassing the processor requirements that I could tell so far.

The method I used bypassed all requirement limitations.

You'll only find out if the performance in Windows 11 is satisfactory by trying it hence the importance of making a Windows 10 system image beforehand.

All the best,
Denis

starchase · 12 Apr 2022

Try3 said:

The method I used bypassed all requirement limitations.

You'll only find out if the performance in Windows 11 is satisfactory by trying it hence the importance of making a Windows 10 system image beforehand.

All the best,
Denis

Yep, I agree. When doing an In Place Upgrade to W11 all that is required is to remove that 1 pesky dll (appraiserres.dll) from the system folder and the setup proceeds regardless what machine you are upgrading. I upgraded my 2 aging laptops that way and the newer one runs fine. The only issue you'd have is the slower the hardware that runs it the less satisfying W11 becomes. I finally had to roll back my Samsung laptop (2012) as it still runs a spinner HD so it is unbearably slow. But my HP Spectre 360 (vintage 2016) runs it nicely still. Thanks to Try3 for the post. The pertinent instruction says:
while setup.exe was running [it was preparing itself for several minutes after starting], I used File explorer*** to watch its temporary working folders populate [C:\$WINDOWS.~BT] then I deleted C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\appraiserres.dll
from this post: Let's install Windows 11 on a incompatible hardware | Page 14 | Windows 11 Forum which is post 266

John

W10 Tweaker · 13 Apr 2022

Bree said:

You know, I feel exactly the same way. I have learned so much from others here since I joined Ten Forums, and I was an IT professional before I retired.

/\ /\ /\
Well said Bree.

Since my unexpected retirement from IT in 2014, I have been craving for technical information & knowledge.
The volume of information & expertise on Ten Forums is mind numbing and fantastic for anyone interested in learning.

I'm often humbled by the knowledge shared freely by many of the members here, thanks for feeding my addiction for knowledge.

Also, many of the members here are regularly demonstrating incredible tenacity and patience while working to solve issues remotely.

Bravo to all that work so hard to make Ten Forums so fantastic.

PS; Thanks to @x509 for creating this thread.

Matthew Wai · 13 Apr 2022

EyeInTheSky said:

To me, it just seems like pirating a copy of Windows 11 and inserting a line of code to fool the esd download into believing it is installing on a capable computer although a new security key is not needed.

I believe Microsoft has deliberately left room for installation on an incompatible computer. Otherwise, Windows Setup can simply ignore the following Registry hack (assuming it works):

Code:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig]
"BypassCPUCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassDiskCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassRAMCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassSecureBootCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassStorageCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassTPMCheck"=dword:00000001

Source: Windows 11 build 21996 - BetaWiki