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  1.    26 Aug 2015 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockeytown Wax View Post
    Something I never understood DeaconFrost ...

    If Microsoft gives us a bazillion options to pick from when we install any Office product, why can't they provide us with the same options when we install their OS ??

    Why can't they provide us with a basic, stripped down, do nothing OS, and then let US pick which features to install ??

    Why force us to use a OS with mobile features on a desktop computer ??
    MS wants to develop one core OS and cut the costs of developing multiple ones.. one for desktop and one for mobile. And I don't think MS would provide a stripped down OS.. for cost reasons and I don't know what the number of people would use/want that.
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  2.    26 Aug 2015 #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
    There are plenty of other forums. The point is, this is a constructive forum. If a person needs help using Windows 10, many of us are here to help. This is no place for people who want to rant and rave that Microsoft didn't design Window 10 to their personal specifications. It drags down the goal of these forums. I'm not going to join a Cadillac forum to rant and rave about how their cars are junk compared to BMW and Audi, so why would someone do that here.

    If a person doesn't like Windows 10 and doesn't feel that it is worth the cost (free), they are free to not use it. There are other options...but not ever one of them needs to start a thread telling us they don't like it.
    I see your point and in the OP it's just a rant. If the OP has questions then he should ask them to get solutions. In post #12 I provided one.. no reply on that yet.
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  3.    26 Aug 2015 #23
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    W7 Pro x64 | W10 IP x64 | Linux Mint VM

    Quote Originally Posted by Hockeytown Wax View Post
    I still use XP and Win7 daily and it's going to stay that way until one of 2 things happen...
    a) hardware driver support dries up
    b) Windows 10 becomes an actual 'desktop' OS
    If by point a) you mean forced driver update then yes, that is an issue (although there are ways to work around that).

    Point b) is what bothers me; I was one of the biggest W7 fanboys out, I rejected W8 on face value (which in hindsight was wrong as with the installation of Start8 it looked and acted just like a square W7) but was intrigued by W10 to see what changes were being made from 8. Now I've been running Preview builds for months and am using W10 as an OBE and it behaves eactly like my 7 install, no matter which OS I boot into I can do my computing exactly the same. It doesn't take long to get used to 10, it's a damn good OS.
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  4.    26 Aug 2015 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockeytown Wax View Post
    If Microsoft gives us a bazillion options to pick from when we install any Office product, why can't they provide us with the same options when we install their OS ??
    You are comparing a software app to an operating system. One has many superfluous features where as the other has necessary components. You could customize Windows 7, and you could customize the crap out of 8/8.1. Seems to be true in 10 as well. If you want to know why Microsoft is building in mobile options, you simply need to look at the latest hardware offerings. The lines separating desktops, laptops, and tablets are blurring. My Surface Pro 3 is a perfect example of that.

    If the OS doesn't offer these features, hardware manufacturers won't innovate. In this case, it doesn't matter who comes first, the chicken (software) or the egg (hardware) as long as someone takes the first step. No one would make touch screen monitors if the OS didn't support it. It sounds like you don't take a look at the big picture of the industry.
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  5.    26 Aug 2015 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockeytown Wax View Post
    Use Windows 10 for a few minutes and you find out you can't change the desktop icons font ... gone is the ability for me to use "chicago.ttf" like I have for the past 17 years on a plethora of other OSs.
    True, MS have cut down on customisation options a LOT. Some of that can be fixed with third party tools, like the Winaero Tweaker (I couldn't stand the default white title bars!) I suspect there's a way to change the desktop font, but you'll probably have to do it via the registry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hockeytown Wax View Post
    What if I don't want to look like a psychopath talking to myself ?? Can I uninstall Cortana ?? No I can NOT. It just sits there on my hard drive taking up valuable space.
    You can just turn Cortana and web searching off, and then the search button just behaves as it did in Windows 7/8. Modern apps take up very, very little hard drive space.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hockeytown Wax View Post
    What if I don't want all of those phone apps littering my OS and "Start Menu" ?? Can I go to 'programs and features' , click the "Add/Remove Features" tab, and uninstall all of that trash ?? NO ... it's gone !! We can't remove ANYTHING from the OS.
    There's a powershell command to remove the default apps, either individually or all at once. I agree it was stupid not to let users choose to remove them via the add/remove components dialog, but it is still possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hockeytown Wax View Post
    I'd really like to strip this OS down to its bare bones so it doesn't use 1.2GB of RAM and 10GB of HDD space before I install any of my apps.
    In terms of both memory and storage space it's considerably more efficient than Windows 7. I have it running on a tablet with 1 GB of ram and a paltry 16 GB SSD and it flies along. Yes it's annoying that Cortana's sitting there occupying 22 MB of ram when it's technically turned off, but it seems MS has made improvements elsewhere that more than offset that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hockeytown Wax View Post
    I get the flat boring GUI ... makes it easier to display on a mobile device ... but that sets you back how many years and how many man-hours trying to get Windows 2000 to look 3D ?? if I wanted my desktop computer to look and act like my phone then ... well ... I'd use my phone. Windows 10 is just as much of a disaster as win8 except maybe it runs a bit faster.
    It's a HUGE improvement on Windows 8 for desktop users. I've now, happily, replaced Windows 8.1 on all machines I had running it. I'm keeping Windows 7 for my serious work machines, but for casual use Windows 10 is already pretty competent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hockeytown Wax View Post
    As for the security risk ... I've lived by this motto ever since I pirated software in the old NT4 days ... if it's coded by humans then it can be hacked by humans .... there is always a way in .... nothing is 100% secure. It doesn't matter what OS you use but, it DOES matter what you do with it and where on the internet you go.
    I'm sure there are many XP users that will be saying this right up to the point they get hit by something really nasty. I've seen elsewhere on this forum users who don't believe even antivirus software is necessary! Some people are setting themselves up for a world of hurt, but what can you do?

    For the record I don't think Windows 10 is ready for prime time just yet, and I can see businesses passing on it until the constant "phoning home" practice is abolished, but it's not the disaster 8 was. I do wish it wasn't so screwed down in terms of customisation, you should never be telling users they need to use powershell, the command prompt or the registry editor to uninstall things or make simple UI changes.
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  6.    26 Aug 2015 #26
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    Geez ... the emotions in this thread ... it's like I told them their child was ugly or something. LMAO

    Relax people ... I'm not here slamming all Microsoft products .... I'm just trying to figure out why they made Windows 10 the way it is.

    When I beta tested Windows 2000 ... right from the very first build I could tell it was solid and stable and a no nonsense OS and couldn't wait to get off of Win98. Each OS since has had less of a "wow" factor, and now Windows 10 just makes me scratch my head and ask why.

    I'm here to see if someone can help me understand its existence.
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  7.    26 Aug 2015 #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockeytown Wax View Post
    I'm here to see if someone can help me understand its existence.
    Ok.. and how can we do that?
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  8.    26 Aug 2015 #28
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    yes BunnyJ .. thank you for that tut thread link. I'll look it over and see what it does.
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  9.    26 Aug 2015 #29
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    As I posted once a thread starts going off into outer space, it just keeps on going and going and going and going and going. Sorta like for 500,000 light years for a short start.
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  10.    26 Aug 2015 #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockeytown Wax View Post
    yes BunnyJ .. thank you for that tut thread link. I'll look it over and see what it does.
    Glad to help.
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