windows 11

steve108 said:

"confusion by obfuscation" comes to mind.

I wasn't trying to be obscure. I figured that people interested in computing might know about the origin of "enidianness" (Endianness - Wikipedia). See the reference to Jonathan Swift.

Lilliputians were known for going to war over which end of a boiled egg they chose to break to eat it. If they were Windows users, it might be round vs. square window corners.

I'll bite.

1. Nonsensical hardware cuttoffs (Intel 8th gens OK; 1st Gen Ryzens... no??? WTF?! Cost us another $60 for a Zen+, that did; no wonder they were so much cheaper; considering ahead when we're pingeonholed to go to 11 on that one. Turns out it was Gen 2 1600AF, yet flagged incompatible. 2600 instead and don't like it as much, oh well).
2. Enforcement of TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot (effectively locking in system to Windows-only unless of course you want to wipe it; not go back to Windows 11 and all your contents held hostage within {ya know, the PC poor}. Or feel free to correct me somebody if I've got the wrong end of the stick here. I've yet to wade into dual booting and other such. Pretty sure this would interfere for those wanting to...?).
3. Took away the only really useful 7 vs 10 feature (at least I don't recall it in 7): grouped and named Start pins. Why?
4. No more configuring Taskbar to suit atypical (e.g. sideways for documents reading) display arrays. Why?
5. Truncated context menu and File Explorer (2-3 times more clicking to do everything in Win11. This one really chaps my cheeks. A pox, a pox I say, for this on the guilty decision-making party. Yes, yes, risky Regedit workarounds for now but... yeah). WHY?!
6. Rounded corners... on square/rectangular bezel displays. Oooo!
7++ Who in heck knows.

That's from not even using the bedeviled 11 personally yet. Yeah.

Oh! Wait... wait... I know: if we wanted the Crapple experience, we'd have bought into Crapple.

Me myself and I have been of the longstanding (Win8/8.1 boycotted) opinion that M$ needs to officially fork Windows into a Desktop/Laptop and a Mobile Toys edition and leave the Desktop/Laptop edition (GUI, context, et cetera) ALONE. (And, more recently, stop trying to be what they're not {yet?}: Crapple).

Me doth think M$ hadn't sufficiently learnt their lesson with the Win8/8.1 gaffe...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I wonder whether MS will ever carry through on their implied threat to stop updating 11 on unsupported hardware?

I recently put 11 on my (cheap) Lenovo laptop. It meets all of the device security requirements (including core isolation, for enhanced security), but the CPU is Intel Gen6.

I imaged things before running the upgrade, so I can always go back if necessary. I'd bet a small sum (5¢, maybe) that it never will be.

Reportedly it is a ~52% kernel crash experience on unsupported systems, so no more need be said. Old systems staying 10. Pop!_OS or something else for them assuming they’re even still operational by 2025, and that Linux-whatever will play nicely with aforesaid hardware. (I confess I don’t know a damn thing about that yet apart from it’s notoriously tricky to get Nvidia drivers working… remains to be seen if it’s as difficult to do as it would be to obtain an AMD equivalent or better-than today lmao).

Don’t all flame me at once, but been on the verge of wanting to take the Linux plunge for years now. 11 might just be what finally forces me to go there… (no illusions of problem-free; not that). But, either way, I will ultimately be dealing with 11 (household Admin; nobody else wants to or can deal with this crap. So Linux for anybody else is haha likely not happening. Hard-won battle to oust crummy OEM systems as it was... HP got on my absolute last nerve).

Anyway. My personal objections would mostly evaporate over 11 if they'd at least rectify 3, 4 and 5. I don't think that's unreasonable.

[In case anybody wonders why I said I had preferred that 1600AF, the 2600 appears more sensitive to DOCP (effective I've left it JEDEC).]