Windows 10: I have gone back to Windows 7

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  1.    25 Aug 2015 #21

    Gee, technology does advance, even under the hood. There is a reason why Windows wont download 10 for (free) those aged beyond Windows 8.1 ...and there even seems to be some reluctance doing 7! and forget Vista or XP!
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  2.    25 Aug 2015 #22

    digitalcurisity said: View Post
    Your saying "posting" if one lays out $200 dollars and six Months later Microsoft has a new OS,you need to buy another program? Yeah!! Yeah!! and YEAH!!! I sure don't think it's progress for us program buyers. Maybe pay a small amount for updating the program, but buy a full new program maybe you but not this guy.
    I get what you are saying, but it seems the issue here was with hardware, not software. I do believe that hardware manufacturers should be held responsible to make their products work with a new OS, especially the one that is going to have a massive install base. It is also a moot point here, because the things the OP had been referring to work just fine in Windows 10, suggesting he had other issues or didn't follow normal processes of checking for driver updates, etc.
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  3.    25 Aug 2015 #23

    DeaconFrost said: View Post
    I get what you are saying, but it seems the issue here was with hardware, not software. I do believe that hardware manufacturers should be held responsible to make their products work with a new OS, especially the one that is going to have a massive install base. It is also a moot point here, because the things the OP had been referring to work just fine in Windows 10, suggesting he had other issues or didn't follow normal processes of checking for driver updates, etc.
    And i agree with you as i have one G73JH ASUS Computer that is having problems with my Roxie Video editing program. I feel it's a problem with the ATI video card,as the same program is working fine in another G73SW ASUS computer that has a NVIDA video card. And it seems there is no update for the ATI card from ASUS support.
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  4.    25 Aug 2015 #24

    The age of the computer has a lot of to do with Windows 10 if it is older than 3 years you may have problems, Computers older than 5 years may be time to get something new if you want to run newer software.
    I get what you are saying, but it seems the issue here was with hardware, not software.
    Good points, and with respect to HP PCs, their website implies that only their machines made in 2013 or newer will run Win10 without problems. Unfortunately, unlike other hardware manufacturers like Sony and Toshiba, they haven't come out and warned folks about Win10 corrupting older machines, typically Win7 machines, and appear to be happy to let their forums fill up with over 100 posts a day from folks complaining about problems. So, I agree that hardware manufacturers should take some responsibility for the Win10 problems and notify their customers NOT to upgrade, and (at the same time) actively work on fixes for those problems. Not all of them seem willing to do that.

    The other issue, which MS should be addressing, is that their Win10 compatibility checker is doing a lousy job of detecting older PCs that will not handle the update well. We hear all the time about CPU deficiencies being caught in advance, but other problems, especially hardware for which there is no Win10 driver, seems to keep slipping "through the cracks". And how hard can this be? The compatibility checker scans the hardware and anything for which MS does not have a current Win10 driver is flagged as a problem. Isn't that how it should work? Well -- it doesn't, at least, not all the time. Every day folks are posting on the HP forums about hardware that no longer works after their Win10 upgrade due to lack of drivers. I'm not saying the lack of drivers is MS's fault; I'm saying the compatibility checker should prevent an upgrade in cases where MS does not have current Win10 drivers.
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    64-bit 10240 10 Pro
       25 Aug 2015 #25

    My Machine is going on 5 years and it runs Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit great. I have little or no use for HP, they made a great calculator back in the 1980's . I prefer to build my own. Before you installed Windows 10 did you run that app that tells you if it will run on your PC?
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    Dual boot: Windows 10 Home Insider Build 16179 & W8.1 Pro x64 with Media Center
       25 Aug 2015 #26

    carbuff said: View Post
    The purpose of my thread is to inform others who may also encounter problems with Windows 10 about the experience I have had. It is not intended to incite a shouting match about "terrible" Microsoft or bad 3rd party software companies.


    I knew reading your OP that you understood right off the bat. Really can't believe what I'm reading from both sides. An OEM never promises, nor held by any law that a particular machine should run "the next OS". By law it needs to run the OS loaded on it when purchased. Nor does any 3rd party software claiming that it runs on a particular OS needs to run on the next. No more. No less.

    Bought this old Acer here with Vista preloaded. I was one of the lucky ones to run 7. Then I got to thinking that I would surely need a new rig with the advent of 8. Went through the preview process and to my surprise got lucky again. Then shortly after they released 8.1. Still again I got lucky, until 8.1.1, then my onboard graphics driver started to fail for it was outdated. It would boot and run, but the driver would fail and recover. So knowing when I bought it that it had an video expansion slot I purchased a MSI graphics card and I'm off and running once again. Dual monitoring to boot. 10 Pro runs absolutely great on this thing. BTW, all 64bit systems.

    Moral of the story? Damn lucky!
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  7.    25 Aug 2015 #27

    Mark Phelps said: View Post
    Good points, and with respect to HP PCs, their website implies that only their machines made in 2013 or newer will run Win10 without problems. Unfortunately, unlike other hardware manufacturers like Sony and Toshiba, they haven't come out and warned folks about Win10 corrupting older machines, typically Win7 machines, and appear to be happy to let their forums fill up with over 100 posts a day from folks complaining about problems. So, I agree that hardware manufacturers should take some responsibility for the Win10 problems and notify their customers NOT to upgrade, and (at the same time) actively work on fixes for those problems. Not all of them seem willing to do that.

    The other issue, which MS should be addressing, is that their Win10 compatibility checker is doing a lousy job of detecting older PCs that will not handle the update well. We hear all the time about CPU deficiencies being caught in advance, but other problems, especially hardware for which there is no Win10 driver, seems to keep slipping "through the cracks". And how hard can this be? The compatibility checker scans the hardware and anything for which MS does not have a current Win10 driver is flagged as a problem. Isn't that how it should work? Well -- it doesn't, at least, not all the time. Every day folks are posting on the HP forums about hardware that no longer works after their Win10 upgrade due to lack of drivers. I'm not saying the lack of drivers is MS's fault; I'm saying the compatibility checker should prevent an upgrade in cases where MS does not have current Win10 drivers.
    Both my old G73 ASUS computers bought in 2010 came with Win7Pro one was upgraded to 8& then8.1,both today are running Win10 only one has a video resolution problem, but other then one program with this item both computers are doing fine running Win10.
    Before it seemed I was finding both systems frozen and needing the power&battery removed to shut them down, now this has not happened with Win10.
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  8.    25 Aug 2015 #28

    carbuff said: View Post
    From my reading of posts in this and other computer forums, I understand that many are operating with Windows 10 without difficulty. Congratulations! Your computer setups must be superior to mine. I hope that sometime in the near future, Microsoft is able to correct the bugs in its present build and that I will be able to use it in the way it is intended. But for now, I have given up trying to use Windows 10 on my desktop. It has been too unstable. By that, I mean it has not constant in operation.

    I have tried numerous fixes for the various problems that have occurred. I learned these fixes from the Microsoft Community website, this forum and other internet computer forums. None have worked to the extent that I can do work using my desktop without app or Windows 10 failures. These failures have made it impossible for me to operate my desktop in a fashion that allows me to do the work I need to do.

    One of the inconsistencies that evoke the most frustration is that access to the start menu is most often denied. Thus, not being able to access 3rd party apps or Windows apps through the start menu including restart and shutdown are simply unacceptable.

    Secondly, a number of 3rd party apps do not function and after consulting the manufacturers, I have learned that that drivers or upgraded software is being developed but no dissemination dates are yet available.

    The incompatibilities and failures make it too difficult for me to employ Windows 10 as the OS for my desktop computer. Thus, I have gone back to Windows 7 for at least, the short-time.
    same here.

    Cortana is buggy. Doesn't show sports for my NFL or college football teams.

    Start Menu is buggy. Randomly freezes. Mail and calendar live tiles sometimes work. Sometimes don't.

    Random notification sounds but no notifications in action center

    Hate Edge browser. No options to sort bookmarks and other minor things that add up.


    Just very underwhelmed with W10
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  9.    26 Aug 2015 #29

    . . ."So". . .don't really care who goes back to Seven, Eight, Eight point one, Linux, OSX. . . they all worked for me, albeit I choose Ten. . .
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    Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
       26 Aug 2015 #30

    You should have tested your software on the TP before upgrading to 10, as far as the start menu, that is just a glitch on your system, which I`m sure a clean install would fix, but if your software is not compatible with 10 yet, then by all means stick with 7

    @ BRKING, so don`t use Edge, use Chrome or your favorite browser.
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