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  1. itm
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       #31

    Try3 said:
    Or it's getting too hot? That wouldn't leave a trail.
    Good point. Do you know of a good alerting app for system temperature?
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  2. Posts : 16,932
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       #32

    Perhaps one of the ones discussed to in my [search results] link?
    I used PiriForm's Speccy for a while a few years ago but it did not have any particularly commendable features.

    If I needed to monitor temperature again I would want a utility that:
    - recorded temperatures in a [human-readable] log file
    - had a facility to set an alarm for a user-chosen temperature

    Denis
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  3. itm
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       #33

    Try3 said:
    Other than the ones referred to in my link?
    I looked at the Nirsoft utility but it seems to offer a presentation layer on top of the existing Windows Event Logs, rather than offering new alerts (e.g. for temperature). Have I misunderstood it?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Ah sorry I had missed the first hyperlink in your post!
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  4. Posts : 16,932
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       #34

    I do not know what your results will be but I think your most useful lines of enquiry are both Events & temperature.

    itm said:
    I looked at the Nirsoft utility but it seems to offer a presentation layer on top of the existing Windows Event Logs, rather than offering new alerts (e.g. for temperature). Have I misunderstood it?
    I mentioned it in response to your report about looking for Events that might shed light on the situation. It is simply a different form of presentation of the same data that Event viewer shows.

    I find its presentation useful when I know when I am looking for but not what.
    That's the situation you are in. You know when you restart but do not know what happened in the computer's last few conscious moments beforehand.

    Denis
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  5. itm
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       #35

    Do you happen to know if any of those temp monitoring tools can actually log or alert when the temperature exceeds normal levels? I read the description for each, and none of them mentioned that capability.
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  6. Posts : 16,932
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #36

    No. My link was just a search result.

    I found the HTG article the most useful one
    How to Tell If Your Computer Is Overheating and What to Do About It
    but, like all the other articles I read, it assumes you have nothing better to do than stare at the temperature measurement all day.
    - But what I learnt before was that the unusual events [failure to respond] never happen when you are paying attention to the temperature.
    - The best I could do was think that it had been alright the last time I had noticed it - and that was not useful.
    - Hence my desire to find one with a human-readable log & an alarm if I ever need to do I again.
    Speccy only wrote an unintelligible log. That was in 2016.

    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 28 Oct 2021 at 12:34.
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  7. itm
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       #37

    So I think I might be homing in on the problem...memory usage seems to leap whenever a large file copy operation takes place. For example, copying about 850MB of files from the local disk to a LAN share caused a memory increase of 20% (>6GB), and this memory was not released when the copy completes. As I have overnight backups scheduled, that might explain why the machine was always dead first thing in the morning.
    So my first thought was antivirus software. I had AVG (free edition) installed, so I uninstalled it. I also had Panda Dome installed (but disabled), so I uninstalled that as well. When I retried exactly the same file copy operation it did not cause a significant increase in RAM usage, so I'll see how things are for the next 24 hours.....
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  8. Posts : 16,932
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       #38

    itm,

    I hope you also use those AV apps' removal tools.
    To blow my own trumpet, see my post New Windows 10 Desktop PC

    Best of luck,
    Denis
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  9. itm
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       #39

    Thanks for the tip. I used the Windows uninstaller, but have now downloaded the Panda and AVG uninstallers and will also run them.
    Fingers crossed....
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