Looking to buy new computer


  1. Posts : 11
    Windows 10
       #1

    Looking to buy new computer


    I am in the market for a new desktop All-In-One computer.

    I do lots of Internet surfing.
    I use the Internet to study various subjects from universities.
    I play lots of games, from simple ones to more complex ones.
    I have a Flight Simuator program.
    I Skype.
    I do lots of email stuff.
    I use the computer every day for at least 4 hours, (many times more)

    I am replacing my older HP Pavilion computer. It has served me well and of course I am considering another one. But I would like some opinions because I haven't kept up very well with the industry and there might be something better out there. I do not trust the reviews I find on the Internet because I think many are paid to hype up specific units.

    I plan on waiting until the new units come out with Windows 11 installed, but that is not mandatory since te upgrade is free.

    Thanks
    Mr. Who
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  2. NavyLCDR's Avatar
    Posts : 16,149
    Windows 10 Pro
       #2

    Is there a reason it has to be an All-In-One? The biggest setback with an All-In-One computer is that it is unlikely to be able to house a real separate graphics card which is going to limit graphics performance. The best you are going to be able to get is an All-In-One with a mobile type (laptop) discreet graphics card.

    Here's some benchmark scores:
    GeForce MX130 vs GeForce MX330 vs GeForce GTX 1080 Ti [videocardbenchmark.net] by PassMark Software

    MX330 is common in All-In-One's with discreet graphics, it has a benchmark rating of 2605. The older, used to be go-to standard of video cards a couple years ago, Geforce 1080 Ti benchmarks at 18056 - 8x more power.
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  3. Posts : 11
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Unfortunately, yes. I just don't have the room for a nice healthy case with a separate monitor and all. I know what you're saying though and of course I agree that would be a much better choice and a longer life expectancy also. But It isn't possible for me in my cubby hole
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  4. Ghot's Avatar
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    Win 10 Home 10.0.19044.1288 (x64) [21H2]
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    MrWho said:
    Unfortunately, yes. I just don't have the room for a nice healthy case with a separate monitor and all. I know what you're saying though and of course I agree that would be a much better choice and a longer life expectancy also. But It isn't possible for me in my cubby hole


    ASUS TUF Gaming F17 Gaming Laptop, 17.3" 144Hz Full HD IPS-Type, Intel Core i7-11800H Processor, GeForce RTX 3060, 16GB DDR4, 1TB PCIe SSD, Gigabit Wi-Fi 6, Windows 10 Home, TUF706HM-ES76 - Newegg.com



    But any of these will do all you require...

    GIGABYTE,ASUS,MSI,Intel Core i9 11th Gen,Intel Core i7 11th Gen,Intel Core i5 11th Gen Gaming Laptops | Newegg.com
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  5. NavyLCDR's Avatar
    Posts : 16,149
    Windows 10 Pro
       #5

    Look at HP Envy with GTX 1650:
    Amazon.com

    There is also an Envy with an RTX 2070:
    https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-ENVY-A...1055/788019045
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  6. Posts : 11
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Which prompts me to ask, do I need an i7 or will an i5 do the job?
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  7. Ghot's Avatar
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    Win 10 Home 10.0.19044.1288 (x64) [21H2]
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    MrWho said:
    Which prompts me to ask, do I need an i7 or will an i5 do the job?


    Mobile CPUs...

    i7 and i9 have 8 cores, i5 has 6 cores. (in the 11000 series)

    i5 = 4-6 cores, i7 = 8 cores, i9 = 8 cores (in the 10000 series)


    This is for the higher numbers in the 10000 and 11000 series mobile CPUs.



    The one thing about laptops that's easy, the bigger the numbers, the better. For CPUs, GPUs, SSDs, RAM, etc.
    At the general Newegg link above, I sorted for lowest price first. If you sort for highest price first, you get much bigger numbers in the Specs, and much higher prices.

    For example...

    MSI GS66 Stealth 11UH-020 Gaming & Entertainment Laptop (Intel i9-11900H 8-Core, 64GB RAM, 2x8TB PCIe SSD (16TB), 15.6" Full HD (1920x1080), NVIDIA RTX 3080, Wifi, Bluetooth, Webcam, Win 10 Pro) - Newegg.com
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  8. Try3's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1288
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    1 How long do you want it to last? If you want it to last more beyond October 2025 [when Windows 10 support ends] then I suggest that you wait until after Windows 11 is released [this October] so that you are not only buying one that claims to be Windows 11 compatible but one that already has Windows 11 installed [so that its compatibility is beyond doubt].
    - I saw that you were already thinking about this subject. I'm just saying that delaying your purchase will significantly de-risk it.
    - After Windows 11 is released, for example, we will all finally know for certain what the minimum hardware requirements are including, therefore, what the minimum CPU specs are.
    2 Other than that, the form factor is likely to have the biggest effect on your range of choices.
    - I saw that you had dismissed the notion of a desktop.
    - If you are at all likely to be mobile [even within your cubby hole] then a laptop could usefully be considered.

    3 I don't know your attitude to display capabilities [display size, display resolution, touchscreen].
    - I would never dream of reducing below 1920x1080
    - I would never dream of reducing below a 17inch display.
    - I would never dream of doing without a touchscreen.
    What you would never dream of is entirely a matter for you.

    4 I don't think any of your other stated requirements are going to limit your range of choices.

    5 I agree with you about being wary of reviews.
    - I once saw a PCWorld review that was entirely fictitious. Its author had never used the hardware concerned [a battery 'powerpack'] and had calculated the supposed experimental results based on an item in its specs that the author had misunderstood. It was only because the results were so ludicrous that the deception was identifiable [a 95WHr-rated battery pack yielding approx. 200WHrs].
    - When I look at reviews now it is only after I have identified the specific topics that I want clarification about and I search for multiple reviews that cover those topics so that I can see more than a single opinion.
    - I do include searching for reviews of tech support standards.
    - -For example, www.laptopmag.com publish annual reviews of tech support [supposedly based on customer feedback] and I tend to assume they have got it about right then I seek out other reviews to see if there is any consensus on the subject.
    - - The one time I did not do this [because I regarded buying a tablet as an experiment anyway so I went with a small unrated maker called Chuwi] I found that they cannot even issue the correct drivers for their own products [their tech support hardware lists do not match what they fit in their products]. I did not think such appalling messes actually existed. So my next purchase will not bypass tech support assessments even if the purchase is another experiment.


    All the best,
    Denis



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  9. Posts : 11
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #9

    Closing this thread


    Great replies and I certainly appreciate all of them.

    I am closing this thread since I specifically was impressed with the reply from Denis. The suggestion to search thru the tuts impacted this old brain and that is what I will do.

    Thanks to each and everyone of you.

    Mr. Who
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