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  1.    23 Aug 2015 #1
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    Contrast.


    What is the deal with windows and contrast? For many years windows has been lowering the contrast to the point that now with windows ten it is often impossible to see. The box I'm typing this in is basically invisible. The scroll bars are gone and I have to find them by waving my mouse around until I cross it. The selected link in my side bar is reduced to a then slightly grey line that simply cannot be located. This is just silly.

    Is there any setting that can get some contrast back? And I don't mean the text contrast. I can read text fine. It is the controls, gadgets and highlighting that needs to be fixed.
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  2.    23 Aug 2015 #2
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    Come on over to the dark side, by way of High Contrast Themes. Of course, some 3rd party software don't do Microsoft High Contrast. Life's ups and downs.
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  3.    23 Aug 2015 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by ppnl View Post
    What is the deal with windows and contrast? For many years windows has been lowering the contrast to the point that now with windows ten it is often impossible to see. The box I'm typing this in is basically invisible. The scroll bars are gone and I have to find them by waving my mouse around until I cross it. The selected link in my side bar is reduced to a then slightly grey line that simply cannot be located. This is just silly.

    Is there any setting that can get some contrast back? And I don't mean the text contrast. I can read text fine. It is the controls, gadgets and highlighting that needs to be fixed.
    If this is a problem because of eye sight, and you don't mean aesthetics, I created a white high contrast theme for someone in the forums(it's butt ugly but I chose strong contrasting colors. It's created to be practical and not pretty.

    One note though, Internet Explore and Edge follows any current High Contrast theme, so there could be problems on sites with white fonts, so I recommend a 3rd party browser such as Chrome which does not follow the Windows system theme.

    And if 3rd party software follows system theme and you have problems seeing something(and it doesn't have the ability to detect high contrast theme's such as LibreOffice does) you may have to temporarily switch back to a windows theme.

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  4.    23 Aug 2015 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    If this is a problem because of eye sight, and you don't mean aesthetics, I created a white high contrast theme for someone in the forums(it's butt ugly but I chose strong contrasting colors. It's created to be practical and not pretty.

    One note though, Internet Explore and Edge follows any current High Contrast theme, so there could be problems on sites with white fonts, so I recommend a 3rd party browser such as Chrome which does not follow the Windows system theme.

    And if 3rd party software follows system theme and you have problems seeing something(and it doesn't have the ability to detect high contrast theme's such as LibreOffice does) you may have to temporarily switch back to a windows theme.

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    I don't have a problem reading text even at a distance with a small font. It is the contrast of the control and gadget elements that is the problem. This box I'm typing in is a perfect example. The scroll gadget is so dim that it cannot be found unless you know exactly where it is. Even the boarders of a window make it very difficult to tell where one window ends and another starts when they overlap. What is the point of a dim grey underline of the selected link in my favorites if I can't actually see it unless I know where it is?

    The high contrast themes I have tried seem to concentrate on making the text visible and do so by injecting a massive amount of ugly. The problems I'm having are either ignored or made worse. And very very ugly.

    I simply cannot follow the logic of turning down the contrast like this.
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  5.    23 Aug 2015 #5
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    I'm going to ask the obvious here. Have you been into your monitors menu and tried adjusting it there?
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  6.    23 Aug 2015 #6
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    Are these what you are talking about. Can you show us a pic?
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  7.    23 Aug 2015 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torquemada View Post
    I'm going to ask the obvious here. Have you been into your monitors menu and tried adjusting it there?
    Yes I have played with monitor settings. I can get barely acceptable contrast levels but at the cost of making some of my games look like crap. A better monitor would probably help greatly. But there simply is no reason that the contrast levels in windows should be so narrow that it is ever a problem. And why can't they be easily adjusted anyway?
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  8.    23 Aug 2015 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie View Post
    Are these what you are talking about. Can you show us a pic?
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    Yes those things and more. most of the problem would probably be solved if I got a monitor with a greater contrast ratio. But this kind of thing should be easily adjustable.
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  9.    24 Jan 2016 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by ppnl View Post
    Yes those things and more. most of the problem would probably be solved if I got a monitor with a greater contrast ratio. But this kind of thing should be easily adjustable.
    Quote Originally Posted by ppnl View Post
    Yes those things and more. most of the problem would probably be solved if I got a monitor with a greater contrast ratio. But this kind of thing should be easily adjustable.
    so this is an old post but I can see there was found no solution so I will restart it.

    Personally my rage for the lack of competence on the win10 designers side have few limits.
    I think they should be fired and hire some competent talent.

    The forcing to use a low contrast on your screen settings to see basic UI elements is just ridicules and completely without merit.
    There is nothing in the system, nor the UI setup that merits this change from win8 to win10, and I am baffled of how someone can lack the most basic design skills and still have one of the highest positions within the industry.

    Why this issue haven't been corrected yet is even more baffling considering when searching for solutions I see an outrageous amount of post complaining about this issue.
    The only solution I have seen someone post that "MIGHT" work is to manually import your own CSS scheme, which for people that know how is a hassle and for people that don't know isn't a possibility.

    btw: this is not an issue with my monitor, i am sitting with a Prolite GB2773HS which should have absolutely no such issues, and doesn't on earlier windows system (win7 and win8 tested).
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  10.    25 Jan 2016 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by ppnl View Post
    For many years windows has been lowering the contrast to the point that now with windows ten it is often impossible to see. The box I'm typing this in is basically invisible. The scroll bars are gone and I have to find them by waving my mouse around until I cross it. The selected link in my side bar is reduced to a then slightly grey line that simply cannot be located. This is just silly.
    Um.... I'm not aware of any contrast issues in Windows 10. Definitely not to the degree described in your post. Care to post a picture of what you are talking about?
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