Create Recovery USB Drive Comments / Questions


  1. Posts : 51
    Windows 8.1
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    Create Recovery USB Drive Comments / Questions


    I wanted to create a W10 Recovery USB Drive. I read several articles on how to proceed and bought 2 new 16GB USB sticks. I formatted both sticks to NTFS file system from FAT32 before starting
    Using 1 of the USBs it took a few tries before the Recovery App / Create programme started and when it did it took longer than 30 minutes before the screen showing the USB stick appeared. At this screen the option for copying the recovery partition was not shown. Having clicked start the window opened showing a bar indicating an approximation of the amount of files copied. That process took in excess of 4 hours to complete. The USB has a file reagent xml document and folders sources + EFI. All of the folders + sub-folders have files with exception EFI / Microsoft / Recovery which is empty.
    The USB properties show FAT32 system and used 6.94GB.
    During pre-creation reading I saw reference to recovery partition and an option to delete if required to free up space on hard drive. After the USB creation completed I searched my C: drive and found an enormous amount of recovery files e.g. in Windows/WinSxS folder there are 19,070 folder items. Some of the files go back a few years say to 2016/7 without checking folders in detail. My W10 details are.
    Edition Windows 10 Pro
    Version 21H1
    Installed on ‎25/‎07/‎2020
    OS build 19043.1165
    Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3530.0
    I intend to use the USB to transfer my W10 system to a new computer and following the above I have questions
    1. Is the USB fully functioning to use? If not please advise on how to proceed.
    2. Why has the USB system changed to FAT32 and should I change it to NFTS before using?
    3. Why did the start of the recovery process take so long and there was no reference to the option for copying the recovery partition?
    4. I have previously created a Recovery Drive using a 16GB SD card. My existing laptop has a SD slot. The last was maybe a year ago and I recall it took some time but surely not 4 hours?
    5. Should I remove all/some of the existing Recovery files from my Windows folders?
    In addition to the USB stick I will have a Backups of W10 system, each partition on laptop HDD on an external USB HDD. I will also have separate copies of all my important on the external USB HDD.
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  2. Ghot's Avatar
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    Win 10 Home 10.0.19044.1288 (x64) [21H2]
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    @Polterry

    Apparently you already use backup software. Why not just "restore" your backup to the "new" laptop?
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  3. Posts : 51
    Windows 8.1
    Thread Starter
       #3

    My understanding is that with new computer with no W10 installed I must 1st use Recovery Drive to boot the machine and then restore backup.
    Is this correct or can I go straight to restore from backup to boot machine?
    Regards
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  4. NavyLCDR's Avatar
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    To transfer your full Windows 10 from old computer to new computer you need a system image backup created with a backup program such as Macrium Reflect Free. It's best to use a USB connected hard drive or SSD to hold the backup image rather than a USB flash drive. You also need to create the backup software's recovery drive, now just a Windows recovery drive, and this will be on a USB flash drive. Then you would boot the new computer from your backup software's recovery drive, and restore the image stored on the USB hard drive or SSD to the new computer.

    The recovery drive that you created using the Windows method to create it will not transfer you current Windows installation to a new computer. It will simply install a new install of Windows 10. It will not restore any of your apps, programs or user data files (except those that came with the old computer from the manufacturer and those may not be compatible with the new computer). If you just want to do a clean install of Windows to the new computer then you just need to create a USB flash drive with Microsoft's Media Creation Tool:
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

    The USB flash drive is FAT32 so that it is bootable in UEFI computers. Most UEFI computers will not boot from an NTFS partition.
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  5. Ghot's Avatar
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    Win 10 Home 10.0.19044.1288 (x64) [21H2]
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    As @NavyLCDR said... Macrium Reflect is the way to go.

    Macrium Software | Reflect Free Edition


    Here is a quick guide (picture)...


    Create Recovery USB Drive Comments / Questions-000000-macrium.png
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  6. Posts : 51
    Windows 8.1
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Thanks for your clarifications. I understand that programs files etc. need to be installed separately
    I have been making W10 backups from Control Panel / All Control Panel Items / Backup and Restore (Windows 7); see jpg attached. Will this be OK or must use another program.


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  7. NavyLCDR's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro
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    Polterry said:
    Thanks for your clarifications. I understand that programs files etc. need to be installed separately
    I have been making W10 backups from Control Panel / All Control Panel Items / Backup and Restore (Windows 7); see jpg attached. Will this be OK or must use another program.
    It is highly recommended to use a different program. I recommend Macrium Reflect Free:
    Macrium Software | Reflect Free Edition

    Windows 7 backup and restore is very unreliable and Microsoft even recommends you use something else.
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  8. Ghot's Avatar
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    Polterry said:
    Thanks for your clarifications. I understand that programs files etc. need to be installed separately
    I have been making W10 backups from Control Panel / All Control Panel Items / Backup and Restore (Windows 7); see jpg attached. Will this be OK or must use another program.



    Even Microsoft recommends you don't use Windows backup.

    Macrium Reflect is probably the best. Most of the people on here use it as well, so there's always help available if you need it.
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  9. Bree's Avatar
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    10 Home x64 (21H1) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    Polterry said:
    I wanted to create a W10 Recovery USB Drive ... That process took in excess of 4 hours to complete....
    Polterry said:
    My understanding is that with new computer with no W10 installed I must 1st use Recovery Drive to boot the machine and then restore backup.
    Is this correct or can I go straight to restore from backup to boot machine?
    That is correct. To restore a system image created by Microsoft's Backup & Restore (Windows 7) you need to boot to Microsoft's recovery environment. One way to do that is to boot from a Recovery Drive USB. However, you do not need to include system files when making the recovery drive. Without the system files a 4GB usb is sufficient and the process takes just a few minutes.

    However, Microsoft themselves have been saying for the past four years that their System Image Backup is a deprecated feature and that you should use something else.

    Microsoft said:
    System Image Backup (SIB) Solution
    We recommend that users use full-disk backup solutions from other vendors.
    Features removed or Deprecated in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update


    For any other system image software (such as Macrium Reflect Free) the principle is the same, you boot from their own recovery usb to restore to another PC. For Macrium Reflect a usb of 1GB is sufficient to make the bootable rescue usb.
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  10. Posts : 51
    Windows 8.1
    Thread Starter
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    Thanks everybody for comments and help. I will now use Macrium to make new copies.
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