Directing data to a second drive ?

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  1. Posts : 162
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1
       #1

    Directing data to a second drive ?


    To direct data to a second drive I thought you opened File Explorer > This PC > then right clicked (for example) Music > Properties and changed the Location.

    However I can also open File Explorer > This PC > then left click Documents which displays Music along with other the folders.
    1) If I right click the Documents folder & change the Location, will that also change the Music & other folders listed within Documents?
    2) Why are the Music & other folders listed in Documents when they are already listed under This PC?
    File Explorer also shows Music under Quick Access. That’s 3 occurrences I’m looking at. Does it make a difference which one I use to change the Location?

    Recently I came across this method which looks like it does the same thing, but does it?
    How to Change the Default Hard Drive for Saving Documents and Apps in Windows 10

    Some online comments suggested creating a separate folder for each user account and make the new folders as subfolders of the user account folder. I am the only user. Is there some advantage of creating a user folder?

    I've never used a second drive for storage & any suggestions would be appreciated.
    Thanks
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  2. Posts : 42,992
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    Hi, whilst you can use the Location tab to relocate these folders, this is not something I personally would choose to do, as I've written on a number of occasions. So once again:

    a. It's possible to make the most awful mistakes very easily in getting the destination wrong - the new location. People have done this without taking the advice I asked to be added to the tutorials on this to create a disk image before using the Location tab.

    b. Many common programs create their folders in the default library folders. Thus they are not entirely your folders, if you see what I mean.

    c. There are one or two circumstances when having done this may create a problem in later system maintenance.

    I prefer to simply create my own folders on the second disk e.g.
    My Documents
    My Videos
    My Downloads
    etc (or whatever you wish).

    This is to me the simplest and least problematic approach.


    If you wish to add these to the existing libraries, you can do, and you can also create your own libraries of course (tutorials available).

    will that also change the Music & other folders listed within Documents?
    Unless you have created a Music folder within Documents, by default Music is a separate folder....

    Why are the Music & other folders listed in Documents
    Screenshot please... this sounds wrong, or perhaps the words misrepesent reality?
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  3. Posts : 162
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #3

    I would create my own folders on the second drive because I thought this had to be done. How would you choose a Location if there was no folder there in the first place in order to put files in?

    If you don’t like using the Location tab then how do you direct files to your folders on the second drive?

    Here's a screenshot showing the music, pictures & videos in the Documents folder, and also outside the Documents folder. This a fresh install of Windows 10 and the only thing I've done to the PC is add a second drive for storage

    Directing data to a second drive ?-image.png
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  4. Posts : 1,203
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    Here's an old thread about this subject.
    What exactly are are "My music", "My Pictures" and "My videos"

    - - - Updated - - -

    Also keep in mind that Libraries are disabled in Windows 10 by default, but you can enable them. People were adding folders from their removable storage devices to their Libraries, and, after they had removed the portable storage medium from their computer, they would wonder why suddenly their folders had gone missing in their Libraries because they got all confused by the fact it's impossible to see the physical location of the folders that nobody else except the biggest wiseguy who works at Mickeysoft can remember where it's at. Choosing to relocate special folders from your user folder (or choosing to relocate your user folder) can be a bad idea for when you run into a situation later where you need to do something that won't work before you relocated them/it back. When dealing with your own personal data that belongs to you, why create obstacles where there are none? Especially the kind of obstacles the only purpose of which is to let Mickeysoft be more in charge of whether you can still access your files and folders without first having to jump through a pile of burning hoops?
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  5. Posts : 162
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1
    Thread Starter
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    hdmi said:
    Here's an old thread about this subject.
    What exactly are are "My music", "My Pictures" and "My videos"

    - - - Updated - - -

    Also keep in mind that Libraries are disabled in Windows 10 by default, but you can enable them. People were adding folders from their removable storage devices to their Libraries, and, after they had removed the portable storage medium from their computer, they would wonder why suddenly their folders had gone missing in their Libraries because they got all confused by the fact it's impossible to see the physical location of the folders that nobody else except the biggest wiseguy who works at Mickeysoft can remember where it's at. Choosing to relocate special folders from your user folder (or choosing to relocate your user folder) can be a bad idea for when you run into a situation later where you need to do something that won't work before you relocated them/it back. When dealing with your own personal data that belongs to you, why create obstacles where there are none? Especially the kind of obstacles the only purpose of which is to let Mickeysoft be more in charge of whether you can still access your files and folders without first having to jump through a pile of burning hoops?
    I'm getting warnings about moving or relocating folders. Maybe "moving" folders is the wrong terminology, but that's what I mostly see, probably because when you go into Properties > Location & enter a location the next box to click on is Move.

    How am I supposed to save documents, music & pictures on a second storage drive?
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  6. Posts : 1,203
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    Mike100 said:
    How am I supposed to save documents, music & pictures on a second storage drive?
    I always use the good old "Save As" dialog window like everyone else, or if that bothers me too much I just copy them over before I delete them from the 1st strorage drive. It works every time.
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  7. Posts : 42,992
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #7

    I would create my own folders on the second drive because I thought this had to be done. How would you choose a Location if there was no folder there in the first place in order to put files in?


    Thank you very much for replying.

    You create your own folders and use them, just like any folder. Where relevant for particular programs you can confgure that program to use your own folder by default.

    E.g. D:\Downloads (let's say). Set your browser to use that as its default downloads folder.

    The Location tab is then not relevant - that's exactly the point.

    It's your PC- it's your choice as to how you use it.
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  8. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
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    I've always used the location tab of properties and never had any issue. I even multi-boot different editions of Windows and they all point to the same folders on D: drive with no issues. I did not move Desktop on this particular install of Windows because I wanted it to have a different desktop than the other editions. And what's great is that whenever I wipe out an install of Windows, all the data stays right there on d: drive

    Directing data to a second drive ?-capture.jpg

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  9. Posts : 15,489
    Windows10
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    The key problem with relocating the system folders to another drive is that you have to include that drive as well as C drive in image backups, along with everything else.

    Another issue is you reinstall OS from scratch, it revets back to C drive and it is a PITA to redirect back to other drive and if not careful, you can really tangle up things.

    In the end, I only use the system folders for temporary stuff and useful configuration stuff e.g. a background start screen picture that I prefer etc.

    As @hdmi says, use File Save As and choose where you want to store data.

    Using system folders as data storage folders also means image backups just keep growing.
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  10. Posts : 1,203
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    cereberus said:
    Using system folders as data storage folders also means image backups just keep growing.
    I don't have that problem. That's just because Acronis True Image 2021 lets me specify that I want the contents of my system folders to be excluded from the partition image I am about to create. It also lets me exclude other files I don't need─like hyberfil.sys and temporary files, for example. My user data are on a completely separate backup routine, as it makes no actual sense to want to include any of that stuff in an image of a Windows partition the sole purpose of which is to back up a Windows installation containing installed Windows updates, drivers and software installations (together with the numerous settings/customizations that may apply to them).
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