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  1. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,246
    Windows 10 IoT
       23 Aug 2015 #81

    sdowney717 said: View Post
    What I had to do to get win10. granted I am not well versed in windows activations, I ended up with an activated win10.

    I had a PC with win 8.1 pro activated. Before I did anything, I used belarc to get the installed key. I then upgraded to win 10.
    Then I shrunk the drive, wanted to make two partitions on the drive and also to clone the install in case the drive self destructed, so I have backup plug and play.
    The shrink process failed and win 10 pro no longer worked
    So I decided to clean install 8.1 pro, I downloaded from MS. When asked for the key, I entered the key Belarc reported.
    It worked and activated win 8.1 pro.
    I then shrunk the drive using minitool partition wizard, that worked.
    Then I upgraded again to win 10, that activated.
    Then I cloned the drive with minitool partition wizard
    Now both the original drive and the clone work, plug in either one and it boots to win 10 and shows activated.

    I also tested out the system reset before the upgrade on win 8.1 and it worked I went through a lot of wondering if it would work, I thought it should work, eventually it did work. This upgrade befudlement ended up taking 2 days of my time to figure it out.
    Nothing out of the ordinary there. If your Windows 10 was activated after the upgrade you could have skipped doing the upgrade the second time. You could have just clean installed on that same PC. You just click skip when prompted for the product code. A hardware ID was created the first time you activated on that PC. That is used the second time around to verify that PC is authorized for a Windows 10 install. It will activate just fine. I've verified it myself.
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  2. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 99
    Windows8.1
       23 Aug 2015 #82

    Myself it's why I have the two major laptops with Win10, and two other smaller laptops with Win7Pro. I keep them all updated and running the same programs. In the past i have had things go wrong on one system,and just move to another computer. I also have two iPads and two Android tablets. So the only thing that i have to fear is my router failing or my internet connection failing. Bad things will happen, it's just when it will happen we don't know.
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  3. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 25
    Windows 10
       23 Aug 2015 #83

    Cliff S said: View Post
    I agree with Mike, and have 2 more words to add: Choice & Taste.
    I think you miss the part about feeling superior.
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  4. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 21
    10
       23 Aug 2015 #84

    Geeezzzzz You know I came here for some help and advice. Yes and to voice my opinion about Win 10

    Some of you guys/girls really and truly tried to help. I had several great suggestions on what to and just my luck I picked the wrong one. I did a system Restore thinking I was going back to Win 7 when in all actuality all it did was give me a VERY clean install of Win 10 and I lost everything except my pictures.. (whew) I was way better off then I was before I came here, even though I had a OS that I did not like.......

    SO to those who tried to help I thank you for your sincere attempt to help me and I would like to see the Moderators of this forum give you a GREAT BIG ATTA-PERSON

    And for the rest of you who choose to use this thread to wine and cry about their own problems I say get a LIFE and start your own thread.........
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  5. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 99
    Windows8.1
       24 Aug 2015 #85

    LeeB said: View Post
    Geeezzzzz You know I came here for some help and advice. Yes and to voice my opinion about Win 10

    Some of you guys/girls really and truly tried to help. I had several great suggestions on what to and just my luck I picked the wrong one. I did a system Restore thinking I was going back to Win 7 when in all actuality all it did was give me a VERY clean install of Win 10 and I lost everything except my pictures.. (whew) I was way better off then I was before I came here, even though I had a OS that I did not like.......

    SO to those who tried to help I thank you for your sincere attempt to help me and I would like to see the Moderators of this forum give you a GREAT BIG ATTA-PERSON

    And for the rest of you who choose to use this thread to wine and cry about their own problems I say get a LIFE and start your own thread.........
    I am really sorry it did not work for you,i wish i knew more about your system and really what went wrong. Everything you had should have still be on your computer. I do hope you get your computer back working well.
    Let us know what happens.
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  6. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,246
    Windows 10 IoT
       24 Aug 2015 #86

    All system restore points are erased when you upgrade from one OS to another. Then new oneas are created over time. I'm talking about the Windows System Restore, not the factory restore/recovery. You can undo a system restore, you just run it again and pick a different restore point. In a lot of cases, the OEM factory recovery partition is left intact, but the link to it is broken during the upgrade. The key press on boot up to access it doesn't work anymore. It sounds like you actually did a Windows 10 Reset. That will wipe out any installed programs and Apps and just leave your files intact. That's what it did for me when I ran it. On the plus side, for me, it fixed another issue I had with live tiles being broken, and some tiles with no icons. It looks like the Windows 8.1 Refresh option is gone now.
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  7. Joined : Oct 2013
    N Calif
    Posts : 660
    W10 Pro (desktop), W10 (laptop), W10 (laptop), W10Pro (tablet)
       25 Aug 2015 #87

    I am a personal friend of LeeB's and last night did a TeamViewer session with him. During the session, I found that it appears that his Windows.old folder is intact but there is no longer a Restore option to take it back to his Win 7 installation. He is traveling and doesn't have his WIn 7 install disk with him. It's my understanding that if he boots with his Win 7 install disk he could then recover Win 7 from the Windows.old folder. Is that correct?

    Is there a way to re-enable the Restore option or any other way so that he could try to revert back to Win 7 without the install disk?

    He also has a System Image on an external hard drive (from 2011 when he first got the laptop) as a last resort he would like to know how he can recover that system image. I believe he needs the Win 7 install disk to do that which is something he doesn't have with him. He doesn't have reliable internet so would prefer not to have to download a large ISO file and burn a disk.

    Anybody got any ideas to help? Lee currently won't have an internet connection until next week so hopefully we can come up with a solution for him for when he gets back on-line.
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  8. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,957
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       25 Aug 2015 #88

    Was the system image made with Win7's own backup?
    If so he only needs to pop in the Windows 7 system repair disk(he did create on and still has it, or?), and then find the image and reimage to his system disk.
    The repair disk never failed me back when I used to test "optimizing" software and 3rd party themes.
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  9. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 69
    windows 10
       25 Aug 2015 #89

    MaximRecoil said: View Post
    And Windows 7 is a downgrade from Windows XP (but an upgrade from Vista).

    Here's my take on it:

    Windows 3.x --> Windows 95 = upgrade
    Windows 95 --> Windows 98 = upgrade
    Windows 98 --> Windows Me = downgrade
    Windows 98 --> Windows 2000 = upgrade
    Windows 2000 --> Windows XP = upgrade
    Windows XP --> Windows Vista = downgrade
    Windows XP --> Windows 7 = downgrade
    Windows Vista --> Windows 7 = upgrade
    Windows 7 --> Windows 8 = downgrade
    Windows 7 --> Windows 10 = downgrade
    Windows 8 --> Windows 10 = upgrade
    I love this kind of stuff..........what is this based on? Facts or belief?
    I loved Windows 7 felt at the time it was the best OS Microsoft ever created based on feel and facts
    Windows 10 feel is better than 8 and 8.1 but the facts are proving its better for modern systems than 7 ( modern in the past 3 years)
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  10. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 69
    windows 10
       25 Aug 2015 #90

    Cliff S said: View Post
    Was the system image made with Win7's own backup?
    If so he only needs to pop in the Windows 7 system repair disk(he did create on and still has it, or?), and then find the image and reimage to his system disk.
    The repair disk never failed me back when I used to test "optimizing" software and 3rd party themes.
    I know many systems have a partition these days with a recovery for original OS, that has failed on me since windows 8, my wifes lenovo was a nightmare because we had the win 10 preview on it, only way I could get hers back so we could get the free 10 was to wipe it and reinstall a copy of 8 activate it and then it was verified for 10 and I upgraded
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