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Thanks for that tip! I do wish they'd stop moving things around and making them difficult/tricky to find! I'm including 3 screenshots below: the most recent "feature" & "quality" updates, driver updates, & "other" updates. Hopefully something there will be telling.If you also search windows update history from the taskbar, you will see a different report like the image I posted. It will also include an area for driver updates.
IDK, but on 3/25 (the oldest "quality" update listed) it was updated.When did you update to 20H2?
Yes, when I searched it I found no easy instructions on permanently disabling it, but figured temp killing the process wouldn't hurt anything.I would have killed that process too, I've heard it returns after the next boot. If that's the case, disabling might be preferred.
Good morning 3point1.
I wanted you to launch the winver app and post the resulting window. This screenshot is from 2019 and provides the OS version with the build number.
I believe the 'Windows Update History' has been in the same place for a long time, the method to access it might have changed though. Microsoft thrives on changing things often and without much regard for any form of logic that most of us can follow.
As a rule of thumb, when searching for something new, I use the Taskbar search first and Win key + X, second. Between those two routes, you will locate most of the common features you will require, mostly.
In your original post, dated July 10, you had indicated that Windows Update was disabled but your screenshots above indicate otherwise.
From your first screenshot, I see a nasty update that might prevent you from controlling Windows Updates. KB4023057 is notorious for defeating controls we've installed. Matthew Wai's CMD & VB scripts will uninstall this KB and prevent it from being re-installed. MS sends it out periodically under the guise of it being a required Security update, among other things.
Microsoft pushes out KB4023057 again to enforce Windows 10 upgrades - gHacks Tech News
After reading of similar incidents, I'd suggest testing the keyboard behavior after booting to Safe Mode. This test will help to confirm if a third party app is causing this disturbance. I have another test, however; it is dependant on the outcome of booting to Safe Mode.
Boot into Safe Mode on Windows 10
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Ah, sorry, missed that response.
Then conversely, I wonder if the "faulty" keyboard has been tested in another device?
But really, mouse AND NOW keyboard problems .... ?
misbehaving mouse after driver updates
Were they a desktop set (brand and model?)?
There's lot of info in this thread and easy to miss one tiny detail. The PC is a laptop so testing the built-in keyboard elsewhere isn't an option.
My money is either a third party app is interfering or the drivers don't function with the current OS after recent updates.
One step at a time and we'll get this working again.
Ah, OK here ya go:
Yikes! Can we get rid of that? I've dl, installed, and run Matthew's app. Here are 4 updates it's offering:From your first screenshot, I see a nasty update that might prevent you from controlling Windows Updates. KB4023057 is notorious for defeating controls we've installed. Matthew Wai's CMD & VB scripts will uninstall this KB and prevent it from being re-installed. MS sends it out periodically under the guise of it being a required Security update, among other things.
Microsoft pushes out KB4023057 again to enforce Windows 10 upgrades - gHacks Tech News
It's been ages since I've booted into safe mode! Done, with no problems. What next?After reading of similar incidents, I'd suggest testing the keyboard behavior after booting to Safe Mode. This test will help to confirm if a third party app is causing this disturbance. I have another test, however; it is dependant on the outcome of booting to Safe Mode.
Boot into Safe Mode on Windows 10
Good morning 3point1.
Thanks for posting the screenshot of your winver. It is as expected, however; I prefer to see the evidence before accepting the expectation as fact.
The successful test booting to Safe Mode is very revealing, if everything functions correctly. Now we're searching for a third party app or driver that is starting with Windows (regular boot mode).
Until we get your PC back to 100%, I'd recommend hiding those driver updates and save the screenshot on your desktop as a reminder. Click the 'Select all' box in the upper left and then the +H button.
Questions before the next step;
1) Do you have any externally connected devices besides a Bluetooth Receiver for the Logitech Mouse?
2) What problem or problems caused you to disable Eset Antivirus?
3) After booting to Safe Mode, was the key repeat issue completely resolved?
4) After booting to Safe Mode did your Mouse perform correctly?
5) Have you tried removing the Bluetooth Receiver for the Logitech Mouse, install a generic wired mouse and restart?
6) Had you installed any new software besides Windows updates, just before this problem started?
And top 'o the mornin' to you as well!
Not currently, but I do attach flash drives, SD cards, external hard drives, a USB microscope, etc.1) Do you have any externally connected devices besides a Bluetooth Receiver for the Logitech Mouse?
I was directed in the "misbehaving mouse" thread, ditto with NordVPN.2) What problem or problems caused you to disable Eset Antivirus?
Ah, another misunderstanding - I only booted, I did not testing as you'd mentioned you had something in mind based on the results of Safe Mode boot. I'll post back in a few moments.3) After booting to Safe Mode, was the key repeat issue completely resolved?
I'll check my original mouse when I redo the safe mode boot.4) After booting to Safe Mode did your Mouse perform correctly?
I haven't owned a wired mouse in years, so no.5) Have you tried removing the Bluetooth Receiver for the Logitech Mouse, install a generic wired mouse and restart?
You're talking to an old fart with spotty memory. To the best of my recollection no, but I am often forced to install a piece of s/w in order to, e.g. attend a meeting, so it is possible.6) Had you installed any new software besides Windows updates, just before this problem started?
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The keyboard behavior did not improve in safe mode.
Mouse behavior was briefly tested and I didn't experience any issues, but the problems with the mouse are not consistent - they are often enough to affect productivity and cause frustration, but cannot be reproduced on demand. However, I'm encouraged by the lack of mouse problems in safe mode so left my preferred (trackball) mouse attached until I see evidence that it still has a problem.