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  1. Posts : 192
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    Thread Starter
       #11

    So its not just me. I understand the benefits of offline secure storage. But why make it so complicated. Microsoft can not even get Outlook to work properly (I get messages every day saying "update your credentials" but I receive all my emails ok).
    The other thing i don`t like with one drive is when you backup files to another Medium it takes for ever to down load and save them.
    I think I shall stick to my own file Admin in future its Safer and the files belong to me.
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  2. Posts : 423
    Windows 10
       #12

    Think HAL. Lol. No seriously some people are more experienced in file management and cloud based programmes. I think it takes a certain way of thinking - which I don’t have. I prefer to only have one set of visible files (and two sets backed up on portable hard drives). I don’t need to send bulk files so can just email anything.

    Bit also - as part of windows - it can also fall foul of an update gremlin possibly.

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    toppergraph said:
    So its not just me. I understand the benefits of offline secure storage. But why make it so complicated. Microsoft can not even get Outlook to work properly (I get messages every day saying "update your credentials" but I receive all my emails ok).
    The other thing i don`t like with one drive is when you backup files to another Medium it takes for ever to down load and save them.
    I think I shall stick to my own file Admin in future its Safer and the files belong to me.
    Sounds good to me. Also you need good internet speeds and a powerful computer to cope with cloud backups. I am also still to be convinced about the security of cloud based storage - probably ok - until something goes wrong. Encryption is used so it’s supposed to be secure although there have been hacks. The article below gives details of that and One Drive sounds better than most in ghat respect. But it’s also to earn money from people! Give you a few gb free and then when you’re dependant on it you start getting more and more bills to increase storage. I don’t want to pay an annual fee for office - I’m still happily using my copy of Word 2013. Suspect it’s more for businesses than personal use.

    Having said that I use iCloud on my phone - but no option there really and I have nothing important on my phone - photos backed up elsewhere.

    When you say Outlook - do you mean the Mail programme or actual Outlook software? I sometimes get the thing about the credentials in outlook email but it is usually when I’ve changed my Microsoft password (or changed something else). Usually you just need to sign in again with your Microsoft password/account.

    Cloud storage: How secure are Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Drive, and iCloud? | IT PRO
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  3. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #13

    toppergraph said:
    Why is one drive so complicated. since using it i can not keep track of where my files are. I have even stored them on a different drive i.e .F:\documents and they still seam to disapear.
    Hi there
    Both it and Google drive seem to work perfectly and easily -- not sure what all the kerfuffle is about - unless you want to "Sync Everything" and have all your stuff on Google / One drive available always even when off line -- which IMO seems a not very good way of using the Cloud servers. !! Once it's all set up simply use your browser to access your data!!!

    "Seeeeeeempleees" !!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. Posts : 192
    win 10
    Thread Starter
       #14

    I agree intirely .yes it works but not as I would trust and Like. I have uninstalled it now.
    as for the outlook Q: yes its mail S**t but convenient.
    No problems with ThunderBird but not so nice to look at but reliable.

    Hazel123 said:
    Think HAL. Lol. No seriously some people are more experienced in file management and cloud based programmes. I think it takes a certain way of thinking - which I don’t have. I prefer to only have one set of visible files (and two sets backed up on portable hard drives). I don’t need to send bulk files so can just email anything.

    Bit also - as part of windows - it can also fall foul of an update gremlin possibly.



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    Sounds good to me. Also you need good internet speeds and a powerful computer to cope with cloud backups. I am also still to be convinced about the security of cloud based storage - probably ok - until something goes wrong. Encryption is used so it’s supposed to be secure although there have been hacks. The article below gives details of that and One Drive sounds better than most in ghat respect. But it’s also to earn money from people! Give you a few gb free and then when you’re dependant on it you start getting more and more bills to increase storage. I don’t want to pay an annual fee for office - I’m still happily using my copy of Word 2013. Suspect it’s more for businesses than personal use.

    Having said that I use iCloud on my phone - but no option there really and I have nothing important on my phone - photos backed up elsewhere.

    When you say Outlook - do you mean the Mail programme or actual Outlook software? I sometimes get the thing about the credentials in outlook email but it is usually when I’ve changed my Microsoft password (or changed something else). Usually you just need to sign in again with your Microsoft password/account.

    Cloud storage: How secure are Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Drive, and iCloud? | IT PRO
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  5. Posts : 423
    Windows 10
       #15

    I've not had a problem with outlook email and used it for years - the web page is better than the app. So I just use the mail app for "checking". And sign in the outlook.com web page for doing anything serious
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  6. NMI
    Posts : 1,095
    Windows 11 Pro, Version 22H2
       #16

    TairikuOkami said:
    Onedrive has this silly feature enabled by default, it removes local files and keeps them online only.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...rs=en-us&ad=us
    Files On-Demand is not enabled by default.
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  7. Posts : 5,452
    Windows 11 Home
       #17

    NMI said:
    Files On-Demand is not enabled by default.
    It always was for me, even after a clean install. It actually made me to loose month's work.
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  8. Posts : 192
    win 10
    Thread Starter
       #18

    So solved THEN: uninstall it. and use proper back up techniques.
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  9. Posts : 2,068
    Windows 10 Pro
       #19

    toppergraph said:
    Q. Do you have to pay for it?.
    I pay for mine as I have a personal Office 365 subscription. Since I have the $99 a year account for Office 365, I get 6 user accounts that each get 1TB. I use one, my wife uses 1, my daughter uses 1, my son uses 1, and my dad uses 1. Still have one not being used.
    toppergraph said:
    Q.Is there a good easy guide to set it up properly?.
    Thank you all for replies.
    I've never really found it difficult, so I don't really follow any guides. I tend to just put OneDrive on the root of one of my drives, for example D:\OneDrive.

    I have about 70GB of stuff in OneDrive. When I built my new desktop this past December, I connected to OneDrive and I decided to not move all 70GB of the stuff local, so I just went with the smart links. So, based on the stuff i actively work on, I only have 80MB on my current drive in use.

    I am considering getting a dedicated SSD in by box to hold OneDrive so that I have a full copy of everything local on my drive as well as the cloud.

    Hazel123 said:
    I prefer to back up to external hard drives. More reassuring for important files.
    Yeah, I don't really consider OneDrive to be my backup. i do take regular backups to external USB drives as well.

    For my use, I have my cell phones setup to automatically backup pictures to OneDrive. This way, anything on our phones is automatically put into oneDrive...therefore, if we lose our phone, or we have to clear up space on a phone, we don't lose pictures.

    As far as the data files, OneDrive is "kinda-like" a backup, in that ideally i have the files on my machine and I have them in the cloud both. So, if my hard drive were to fail, or my house were to burn down, chances are that Microsoft would NOT lose them at the same time in the cloud. Also, the same holds true that if something catastrophic were to happen with Microsoft in their cloud, that if things suddenly disappeared in the cloud, I would still have them on my hard drive. < ---- Although I still believe in having a backup of that data (if it's important) in case something goes fubar with the sync and the files go away in the cloud and on my local box at the same time. But it's never happened and I have used it for years.
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  10. Posts : 2,068
    Windows 10 Pro
       #20

    TairikuOkami said:
    Onedrive has this silly feature enabled by default, it removes local files and keeps them online only.
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...rs=en-us&ad=us
    It's not really a silly feature. They enable that feature because people started getting laptops and such that have relatively small SSD's and if you have a 1TB OneDrive folder (because you bought Office 365), and if you had something like 200GB of stuff in your OneDrive account, you might not actually want that consuming all of that space on your SSD. This puts trust into Microsoft that they backup their environment and safeguard your data. I think for many people, having it in the cloud is safer than local as lot's of people aren't enthusiasts like we are and they don't take the time to backup their stuff....sad but true.

    I know that I have Files on Demand enabled. I have about 70GB of stuff in OneDrive, and when I built my new computer in December of 2020, I didn't feel like downloading all of that data onto my 2TB WD SN850 PCIe Gen 4 NVMe drive. I am considering getting another basic SSD drive to be a dedicated drive for keeping my onedrive data....and thus having it both local and in the cloud (effectively turning off files on demand), but I haven't done it yet.
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