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  1. Posts : 35,568
    Win 10 Pro (21H2) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #41

    Actually MS is providing Windows as a service... trying to keep people mentally alert by continually providing puzzles to solve.
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  2. Posts : 266
    Windows 10 Home 21H2
    Thread Starter
       #42

    Thanks for all your opinions @Nubiewithatwist, @mjh312, @MeAndMyComputer, @Berton and @dalchina,
    With a great respect of your age, experiences and always being able to keep up!
    My question actually was how an average senior customer of Windows 10 could handle all these features and updates, tweaks as well, which are growing like mushrooms after rain? How about customers who are, for example, not members of this forum and have very basic knowledge about Windows 10?
    In my opinion, Windows 10 is turning itself more as a hobby or something to keep you nonsense busy instead of using it for a real work. That is what is happening to me and I am trying to stay possitive when it comes to learning something new in it.
    Will be well prepared when I go in pension...
    Best regards
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  3. Posts : 96
    windows 10 64 bit home version 1903
       #43

    dalchina said:
    Actually MS is providing Windows as a service... trying to keep people mentally alert by continually providing puzzles to solve.

    Yeah right; its not working. it only serves to increase irritability in people
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  4. Posts : 35,568
    Win 10 Pro (21H2) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #44

    @Ivan Petrov - all joking aside- Windows upgrades and MS's continually fiddling with the specifications makes it a real pain. And the default is about the worst it can be- automatic updates whenever they are available.

    Perhaps what is needed is a kind of 'tweak pack' for older/less able people who simply want a PC that continues working that disables Windows Update, makes it easier to see, eliminates Onedrive...

    I stayed with build 1903 for almost 2 years- I blocked updates and upgrades for a couple of basic reasons, particularly because MS made a complete hash of changing Windows search in 1909.

    Staying with a single stable build and no updates was a time of peace and quiet. No Windows worries.

    I used disk imaging regularly- just in case (you might well ask how does a newcomer know they should do that) and daily restore points created on a schedule ... and just simply used my PCs. Great. One of them is still on 1903.

    But for Home users in particular to stay on a given build- well, they have to
    a. realise it can be done
    b. know how.

    Even basic backing up...

    So many things for an older person (I'm a pensioner!) to deal with. And when something goes wrong... as it will...

    Perhaps something like a Chrome Book is more suitable for older people - basic internet access...
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  5. Posts : 266
    Windows 10 Home 21H2
    Thread Starter
       #45

    Staying with a single stable build and no updates was a time of peace and quiet. No Windows worries.
    Totally agree with you, dalchina!

    But for Home users in particular to stay on a given build- well, they have to
    a. realise it can be done
    b. know how.

    Not willing, honestly, to do that since I can anticipate a mess later. Thanks for your thoughts.
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  6. Posts : 14,603
    Windows 10 IoT
       #46

    I'm 63, I finally just gave up on the fix it for friends and family. It was just too frustrating and time consuming. I'd get it all setup and working and it wouldn't take long before it was messed up by them, or a Windows update. I keep my PC's and my wife's laptop up to snuff and that's it.
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  7. Posts : 11
    Windows 10 Pro x64 (21h1 19043.1083)
       #47

    Berton said:
    Is 81 senior enough? I got started learning about then using computers in the late '80s...
    Nope, I was using and teaching computers in the mid-sixties, and my first big computer was a hybrid of digital linked to an analog system programmed by patchboards.


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    Ivan Petrov said:
    My question actually was how an average senior customer of Windows 10 could handle all these features and updates, tweaks as well, which are growing like mushrooms after rain?...
    In my opinion, Windows 10 is turning itself more as a hobby or something to keep you nonsense busy instead of using it for a real work.
    Yes, I think software producers (like MS) have increasingly focused on the market of users on smart phones or tablets who are constantly surfing and texting/tweeting and want constant stimulation and data feeds. I keep hoping that some of these producers will recognize there is a smaller but dedicated OTHER market of users who are still on desktops (or even tablets out in the field) focused on their work or hobby or business applications, and neither the workers nor their supervisors want constant data feeds (e.g. News/Interests) interupting their productivity. (Think of the senior who only wants to use his genealogy program and surf the web for information on ancestors. Don't bother me with updates, my program and browser work just fine, thank you.) I think this market wants a basic stable OS with no extra "features, updates, tweaks, and apps" but with the ability to easily install only the few tailored applications that suit their business or personal needs. I mistakenly thought Windows "Pro" was supposed to be that, versus Home or Student, but clearly I was naive.
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  8. Posts : 14,603
    Windows 10 IoT
       #48

    I think you'll find that the average Joe computer user, just goes with the defaults and puts up with the nag screens etc. If they get really annoyed they Google how to make it stop. Most of the people I hang out with (my age or older) have no background in Computers. They just go with the flow as long as it works and does what they need it to do.
    The guys I worked with, Electronic Technicians like me, are the other side of the coin. We want to bend it to our will. As I get older I'm slowly drifting from one group to the other. Windows wise anyway. I'm a Raspberry Pi enthusiast and enjoy mucking about with those and Linux way more than being frustrated by Windows.
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  9. Posts : 11
    Windows 10 Pro x64 (21h1 19043.1083)
       #49

    KB5003690 fixes N/I taskbar issue


    Just installed this newly released optional cumulative update:

    2021-06 Cumulative Update Preview for Windows 10 Version 21H1 for x64-based Systems (KB5003690)

    I have not used it a lot yet, but it DOES seem to fix this issue of the taskbar!!!

    HOORAY!!!!!

    WARNING: This is a HUGE update. It took over a half hour for the download and install on my computer, but the code to fix the taskbar seems included and fixing this will be worth it.
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  10. Posts : 35,568
    Win 10 Pro (21H2) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #50

    Thanks - I guess SOME people will have already got to love N&I ... perhaps that was a ploy by MS to get people to keep it for a while!

    The News item on that update does state it should fix it.
    Took about 15mins including the download.
    Last edited by dalchina; 23 Jun 2021 at 14:47.
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