Puzzled by sizes of Windows Apps folders on my desktops

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  1. Posts : 292
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       #11

    wiganken said:
    OK. I'll leave things as they are then. Thanks for your help.
    Here is a link to show you how to restore to Trusted Installer if you want to change the Windows Apps folder back:
    How to restore TrustedInstaller as owner for system files on Windows 10 | Windows Central
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  2. Posts : 835
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       #12

    Mcd,

    Thanks for being Johnny-on-the-spot with that link. I couldn't remember the set of steps, because it's been ages since I did that reversal of ownership, and I could only suggest that he check for a Brink tutorial. I followed your link and found the instructions there perfectly simple and clear.

    Dan
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  3. Posts : 292
    Windows 10 Home
       #13

    Wisewiz said:
    Mcd,

    Thanks for being Johnny-on-the-spot with that link. I couldn't remember the set of steps, because it's been ages since I did that reversal of ownership, and I could only suggest that he check for a Brink tutorial. I followed your link and found the instructions there perfectly simple and clear.

    Dan
    Dan,
    Glad I was able to help.
    Mark
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  4. Posts : 565
    Windows 10 Professional 64-bit
       #14

    @Wisewiz - Referring to point 2 in my post #7 and your reply in #8: -

    What I did was to right-click on the WindowsApps folder and took ownership of the whole folder and subfolders. This involved nearly 25000 files and the link in #11 showing how to give ownership back to TrustedInstaller was only for a single file.

    I am thinking that if I run the Remove_Take_Ownership.reg file then this will add it to the context menu (as you said in #8) and I can then use this "Remove_Take_Ownership" on the WindowsApps folder but will this automatically revert the ownership back to TrustedInstaller for all folders, subfolders and the 25000 files?

    Just thought I would ask before trying it.
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  5. Posts : 835
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       #15

    Hey there,

    The link Mcd posted in #11 covers this situation: the author says, "Keep in mind that this works for system files as well as for system folders. Also, don't forget to check the "Replace owner on the subcontainers and objects" and "Replace all child object permission entries with inheritable permission entries from this object" options, if you previously changed these settings on system folders."

    The instructions in that page are very clear. If you open that Web page and leave it open while you go to File Explorer and navigate to Windows Apps, you can follow the steps by using the icons in the taskbar to jump back and forth. What you will be doing is manually changing the ownership of the folder back to Trusted Installer. Be sure to follow all of the instructions, step by step.

    Your suggestion, "I am thinking that if I run the Remove_Take_Ownership.reg file then this will add it to the context menu ..." will only remove the Take Ownership item from your context menus; it won't have any effect on your folders. You might want to take ownership of a file or folder some time in the future, so I'd leave it in the context menus and not use it until you actually need it.

    This is important: Don't start tinkering again -- even with excellent instructions at hand -- until you make a system backup. I'd use Macrium Reflect Free to image the disk your Windows system is on. Put the image on a second internal disk if you have one, or on an external disk if you have that. Then if you slip (but I'm sure you won't), you're insured.

    Dan
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  6. Posts : 565
    Windows 10 Professional 64-bit
       #16

    @Wisewiz - Thank you. I'll leave things as they are until after my next Macrium Reflect backup on 1st May then try Mcd's link.
    @Mcd73165 - Thanks for the link.
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       #17

    Good thinking. Good luck.

    Dan
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  8. Posts : 565
    Windows 10 Professional 64-bit
       #18

    @Wisewiz and @Mcd73165

    I wish I hadn't taken ownership (my post #7) now. I tried Mcd's link which did give ownership to TrustedInstaller but there were many errors and I could only 'Cancel' the operation part way through. Since then I get a pop-up about my HP Keyboard when I restart or switch On.

    Puzzled by sizes of Windows Apps folders on my desktops-security-error.png
    Puzzled by sizes of Windows Apps folders on my desktops-keyboard-error.png

    I'm glad I did my Macrium Reflect backup first.
    Message to anyone else thinking of taking ownership of system files: - Don't do it unless you absolutely need to.
    Seems like I will be stuck with being the owner of the WindowsApps folder.
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  9. Posts : 835
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       #19

    I'm sorry you've hit a snag, but I'm glad you made that backup. Restoring is a snap with MR.

    Just a thought, though: since your posts just after you took ownership revealed none of the problems you cite in #18, and since you did fiddle around inside the Properties of Windows Apps (even though you cancelled part way through), before you restore the whole C: drive, it might be worth navigating to Windows Apps again and using the Take Ownership command in the context menu. If you try that and it succeeds and if the warnings and pop-ups stop, you're good to go. I'm absolutely certain that many Win10 users have taken ownership of Windows Apps -- as have I -- and experienced no complaints from Windows. I'm not pushing this idea; just suggesting that it's an option.
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  10. Posts : 565
    Windows 10 Professional 64-bit
       #20

    @Wisewiz - Thank you. I took ownership again as you suggested but it did not fix the keyboard pop-up issue so I restored from the MR image and that fixed the keyboard pop-up issue.

    I am stuck with being the owner of the WindowsApps folder but I can live with that. Maybe the next Windows 10 Feature Update, due soon, will fix it?
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