Laptop Repair and Upgrade

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  1. Posts : 2,487
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
       #21

    It is certainly possible your granddaughter installed Windows 10 without doing a clean install.

    That would be called an "in place upgrade".

    By definition, a clean install removes all partitions, files, folders, settings, programs, etc.....the drive is taken down to "unallocated space".

    I have no idea what she did other than what is typed into this thread.

    Intermittent boot failure can have many causes.

    Some related to Windows.

    Some not.

    We have no idea of the cause in your case as far as I can see.
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  2. Posts : 165
    Win10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #22

    OK, what I am attempting isn't going as smoothly as I want.

    To recap briefly, I want to use the existing laptop's 1tb HDD and use it internally as storage in the CD/DVD optical drive.

    Before doing so I need to clone/mirror image the OS on the HDD to a smaller capacity SSD then I will install it into the laptop along side the HDD--simple you would think but nope!

    The bios on this laptop is UEFI and a GBT HDD, the smaller 120gb SSD is now changed to GBT, so both have the same file structure.

    ( the existing HDD, roughly has around 700gb of space unallocated ---- 230gb is allocated for OS and smaller partitions of which there is still 160gb of free space. )

    I created a USB mirror image and a separate USB boot loader in case of need of the above 1TB HDD using Macrium, I did this just in case, as a stand by if things went wrong.

    I am using free cloning programs and then attempted to clone the above HDD, things went a bit pear shape for me.

    Using Macrium first, made a mirror image OK but free Macrium doesn't support creating/ cloning a larger disk to a smaller one.

    EaseUS does but not the free version.

    AOMEI does, ( I think ), but only supports MBR drives in it's free version.

    Maybe TenForums should update it's suggestions as there are limitations using all the free versions.

    So a bit stuck in going forward and for free, any suggestions?

    I'm trying to clone, ( even tho' I have a mirror image of the HDD ) and going from larger HDD to smaller SSD and both drives are GBT.
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  3. Posts : 17,281
    Windows 11 Pro
       #23

    Macrium Reflect Free does support cloning and restoring to smaller drives.
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  4. Posts : 165
    Win10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #24

    NavyLCDR said:
    Macrium Reflect Free does support cloning and restoring to smaller drives.
    Thank you,

    What is it I'm not doing correctly or understanding, see images, Macrium reports back insufficient space.Laptop Repair and Upgrade-1.jpgLaptop Repair and Upgrade-2.jpg
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  5. Posts : 17,281
    Windows 11 Pro
       #25

    Click on the target OS partition and then cloned partition properties. There will be a free space box. Put 529 MB in the free space box. Then you can drag and drop the last two partitions from the source disk to the target disk. Here's an example going from 128 GB drive to a 64 GB drive:

    Laptop Repair and Upgrade-capture.jpg

    and now here is the same machine running from the cloned 64GB drive:

    Laptop Repair and Upgrade-capture1.jpg
    Last edited by NavyLCDR; 29 Apr 2021 at 10:24.
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  6. Posts : 1,614
    Windows 10 Home
       #26

    Revo Uninstaller in combination with BCUninstaller (BulkCrapUninstaller) is a very powerful tool set that can remove all unwanted bloatware. Concerning BCU, even though it can do multiple uninstalls silently, I highly recommend nonSilent, one at a time. More control over the process that way. And, if the system burps, you will know which uninstall was actually in progress at the time of any interruption.
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  7. Posts : 165
    Win10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #27

    NavyLCDR said:
    Click on the target OS partition and then cloned partition properties. There will be a free space box. Put 529 MB in the free space box. Then you can drag and drop the last two partitions from the source disk to the target disk. Here's an example going from 128 GB drive to a 64 GB drive:
    Thanks.

    Do I need to drag partitions 1 & 2, ( see my previous image ), to the target disk as well?
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  8. Posts : 17,281
    Windows 11 Pro
       #28

    Jaylob4 said:
    Thanks.

    Do I need to drag partitions 1 & 2, ( see my previous image ), to the target disk as well?
    Not if they are already there. The way that I did it was select to clone this disk. Then selected the target drive. Reflect automaticaly put partition 1 and 2 on the target disk, and said there was insufficient space. Then I clicked on partition 2 and entered the combined size of partitions 3 and 4 in the free space block. That gave me free space on the end of the target disk to then drag and drop partitions 3 and 4 to the target disk. Then executed the clone. Since I had booted from Macrium Reflect Recovery, I then ran the Fix Windows Boot Problems utility from the restore menu to make sure the proper boot files were in the EFI system partition on the target drive and then rebooted the computer from the target drive.
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  9. Posts : 165
    Win10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #29

    RolandJS said:
    Revo Uninstaller in combination with BCUninstaller (BulkCrapUninstaller) is a very powerful tool set that can remove all unwanted bloatware. Concerning BCU, even though it can do multiple uninstalls silently, I highly recommend nonSilent, one at a time. More control over the process that way. And, if the system burps, you will know which uninstall was actually in progress at the time of any interruption.
    Hi Rowland,

    In the end I did a complete fresh install of Win 10 Home and for the most part that has resolved the HP bloatware returning.

    There is still a bit of it, like HP support and a couple of other HP pre-installed items, other then that LT appears stable.

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    NavyLCDR said:
    Not if they are already there. The way that I did it was select to clone this disk. Then selected the target drive. Reflect automaticaly put partition 1 and 2 on the target disk, and said there was insufficient space. Then I clicked on partition 2 and entered the combined size of partitions 3 and 4 in the free space block. That gave me free space on the end of the target disk to then drag and drop partitions 3 and 4 to the target disk. Then executed the clone. Since I had booted from Macrium Reflect Recovery, I then ran the Fix Windows Boot Problems utility from the restore menu to make sure the proper boot files were in the EFI system partition on the target drive and then rebooted the computer from the target drive.
    Thanks.

    They weren't so dragged them, then dragged the last two partitions insufficient space, increased the MB number in the free space box and that resolved that.

    So as I write it appears cloning is proceeding, it ain't quick is it, I'd forgotten how long cloning can take. I will use the "fix window boot problems utility " and will let you know how it went.

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    NavyLCDR said:
    --I then ran the Fix Windows Boot Problems utility from the restore menu to make sure the proper boot files were in the EFI system partition on the target drive and then rebooted the computer from the target drive.
    Thanks, it all went well.

    The only thing I am unable to do because I couldn't find it was the "Fix Windows Boot Problems Utility " by clicking on the restore tab, the option wasn't there.
    Last edited by Jaylob4; 29 Apr 2021 at 19:21.
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  10. Posts : 17,281
    Windows 11 Pro
       #30

    Jaylob4 said:
    The only thing I am unable to do because I couldn't find it was the "Fix Windows Boot Problems Utility " by clicking on the restore tab, the option wasn't there.
    The option will only be there if you boot the computer from Macrium Reflect Rescue Drive (either USB flash drive or the boot menu option).
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