Alternatives To Encryption Re: Prying Eyes

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    phaedruspress said:

    ... but we (I) am talking about probably USB 2 16GB drives.
    Anything is slow in a USB 2.0 connection. I assume you are really referring to a USB 3.0 (Gen. 1) connection.
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  2. Callender's Avatar
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       #22

    FYI. OP asked for alternatives to encryption.

    In any case I cannot see hidden folders using some advanced tools. I didn't try booting from Linux though.

    On another note: Any folder that was ever created - the folder name will be retained in shellbags which is a privacy issue.

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    phaedruspress said:

    "
    I am familiar with hiding a folder from the ribbon, as well as from the CMD prompt using something like this (are they the same)

    attrib +s +h C:\Users\Resident 4\a hidden

    attrib -s +h C:\Users\Resident 4\a unhide


    or simple password protecting folders."


    Those softwares mentioned use some other method.
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    More info. I can see a superhidden folder on root of C drive and can see the names of hidden files. However any attempt at recovery results in a zero byte unreadable file being recovered. So if a user knew how where to look they could obtain file names only.

    Alternatives To Encryption Re: Prying Eyes-hidden.jpg

    Alternatives To Encryption Re: Prying Eyes-filecopy.jpg

    I didn't try the same for Hidden/ Secret Disk as they don't work with external drives.
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       #25

    Callender said:
    More info. I can see a superhidden folder on root of C drive and can see the names of hidden files. However any attempt at recovery results in a zero byte unreadable file being recovered. So if a user knew how where to look they could obtain file names only.

    Alternatives To Encryption Re: Prying Eyes-hidden.jpg

    Alternatives To Encryption Re: Prying Eyes-filecopy.jpg

    I didn't try the same for Hidden/ Secret Disk as they don't work with external drives.
    Thanks. That's very informative. I will certainly now add the Winmend Folder Hidden application when I take a closer look at BitLocker in the coming days.
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       #26

    As an alternative to creating a virtual drive (of which I have no experience), you could always just partition the USB drives - create one that you encrypt, and leave the rest unencrypted. Note that Winmend seems to be an encryption system (it could hardly be anything else).
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       #27

    Maybe just do an internet search for "folder hider" - there are many alternatives.
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       #28

    mngerhold said:
    As an alternative to creating a virtual drive (of which I have no experience), you could always just partition the USB drives - create one that you encrypt, and leave the rest unencrypted. Note that Winmend seems to be an encryption system (it could hardly be anything else).
    >you could always just partition the USB drives - create one that you encrypt, and leave the rest unencrypted

    Well, that's what I was doing with VeraCrypt when I was practicing on 16 GB Flash drives. But I want to do this as mentioned on 12 and 14 TB external USB drives and the process I have come to find out for me anyway appears to be to unwieldy for external drives of this size. With the exception of a 1 GB partition the rest of the 12 TB drive for example needs to be encrypted and I came to the conclusion that that was not going to work out well.

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    Callender said:
    Maybe just do an internet search for "folder hider" - there are many alternatives.
    I suppose. While I knew about hiding folder options since I am very familiar with the practice of:

    attrib +s +h “C:\Users\Resident 4\a” hidden

    attrib -s +h “C:\Users\Resident 4\a” unhide

    "a" being the folder this go around I was looking for something more secure and robust. As mentioned I am going to take a hard look at BitLocker and Winmend and see if (1) BitLocker is more multi TB friendly as well as (2) the efficacy of Winmend.
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    Well I've been testing lots of Drive/ Folder/ File hiders some with encyption and some without encryption. None of them are fast. I'd say partition your external drives into smaller chunks (with a drive letter for each chunk) and use your encryption software to encrypt/ decrypt one or more of those chunks at a time rather than decrypting the whole drive in one go.
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       #30

    Callender said:
    Well I've been testing lots of Drive/ Folder/ File hiders some with encyption and some without encryption. None of them are fast.
    In my testing, and I will say that your mileage may vary, encryption isn't slowing me down at all. For example, to my NVMe without encryption I get over 4000MB per second. With encryption I still get the same thing. I guess the encryption happens even faster than the disk can write data. If I'm not mistaken, it's done in hardware on the CPU with current gen systems.
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