About to Update to Windows 10 version 20H2, How Essential Is It? + WT

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  1. Posts : 13
    Windows 10
       #1

    About to Update to Windows 10 version 20H2, How Essential Is It? + WT


    Hey all.

    It's the regular tech noobie. So about 2-3 weeks ago I was cleaning up storage from Steam games that I don't play, including War Thunder, to make up some spaces for other stuffs. After the cleanup, Windows updater downloaded the 20H2, but it's not yet installed in the regular mandatory "Update and Shutdown". It instead has a separate tab of "Update and Restart", while the "Shutdown" button does not seem to initiate it.

    So I let it be. I read some forums that the 20H2 has some issues that makes me hesitant to use it. Some that I found are
    1. Legacy Edge's end of support. I only use Edge for opening PDFs or Battery Health Check, so how different is the new Edge?
    2. I read that a Control Panel feature is removed.
    3. Microsoft Photo Viewer and Start Button not seen.
    4. Less-cluttered "Start" options, that I personally kinda dislike. The previews pictures of the update I see makes the "Photo" preview tab on the Start menu disappear. I wonder if that can be reapplied again?

    How essential is it to update to Windows 10 version 20H2? If I somehow get myself disappointed in it, is it possible to rollback to the version I'm using now when writing this post, which is Windows 10 version 1909 (OS Build 18363.1440). If so, how do I do it?

    I think I'll add another question here too, in case it's somehow related to it.
    So when I was uninstalling War Thunder from Steam, I uninstall the launcher from the Steam, and then I deleted the "War Thunder" folder from the "Steamapps" -> "Common" folder. The storage capacity was at 24 GB, and then after I deleted the folder, it gets to 56 GB. Around the same time when I was uninstalling games, Windows updater downloaded the 20H2.
    After I was done, I forgot that I either let the lappy on "Sleep" or "Shutdown". The next time I open it, I think it was the next day, I checked the storage, and I'm surprised that the storage is around 24-27 GB. I rechecked the folders, and even checked the "Users" -> "Appdata" -> "Roaming", and didn't find any trace of it. I also made sure to empty the Recycle Bin.
    Some questions came to mind.
    1. Is this related to 20H2?
    2. How do I solve this? I checked "Disk Cleanup" and it didn't show any clutter of files except the ones that I know I'm working on.

    I look forward to your answers.

    Thank you.

    P.S: My system spec is ASUS ROG GA502D with 8GB RAM and 500 GB SSD.
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  2. Posts : 34,900
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #2

    20H2 isn't essential. I upgraded this PC from 1903 to 20H2 a few days ago. Had a few minor snags to overcome (there's a thread on that) but that didn't take long.

    What differences do I notice?
    - seems slightly more responsive (subjective!)
    - this PC now can no longer see my other PC on the LAN network, but all is fine from my other PC (Still 1903).
    - as expected, file explorer search works slightly differently, and correct syntax is now no longer (sadly) highlighted in blue.
    - new Edge (which I don't use)
    - Cortana is now an app, and now ignores me if I ask it to set a reminder- which it used to do. All me reminders I had set are lost (shown by Calendar). I expected the first, not the second.

    Reversion: for any feature update by default you have 10 days to 'Go back to the previous build' - extendable to 60 (Tutorials available).

    I can't comment on Steam sorry.

    how different is the new Edge?
    It's a completely re-written program based on Chromium.
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  3. Posts : 17,622
    Win 10 Home 10.0.19044.1706 (x64) [21H2]
       #3

    But.... the most important improvement is the much cooler Start Menu color schemes.



    About to Update to Windows 10 version 20H2, How Essential Is It? + WT-image1.png About to Update to Windows 10 version 20H2, How Essential Is It? + WT-image1.png
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  4. Posts : 34,900
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #4

    Lots of shades of black??
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  5. Posts : 17,622
    Win 10 Home 10.0.19044.1706 (x64) [21H2]
       #5

    dalchina said:
    Lots of shades of black??


    Different background colors on the tiles... closer to the color they sit on.
    Personally, I like the darker theme. But on any color scheme the tiles aren't as garish as they used to be.



    @PlasmaDrone In one month (May) we'll be on 21H1. Which isn't supposed to be all that.
    Apparently they are saving the major changes for 21H2 (October).
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  6. Posts : 34,900
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #6

    Still best to stand back and watch the dust settle... 21H1:
    Windows 10 Version 21H1 update: All new features, release date
    - some features
    Windows 10 version 21H1: All the changes so far | Windows Central
    - long list of fixes
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  7. Posts : 24,545
    10 Home x64 (21H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #7

    Ghot said:
    But.... the most important improvement is the much cooler Start Menu color schemes.
    dalchina said:
    Lots of shades of black??

    Actually the tiles in 20H2 are now translucent, and are a slightly lighter shade of whatever colour you choose for the Start menu background. Much more restful (IMHO) than the solid blue of previous versions.

    PlasmaDrone said:
    4. Less-cluttered "Start" options, that I personally kinda dislike. The previews pictures of the update I see makes the "Photo" preview tab on the Start menu disappear. I wonder if that can be reapplied again?

    You can customise the tiles that are pinned to Start to your heart's content. The upgrade to 20H2 should not reset the tiles that you have chosen to pin to Start. I had Photos on mine both before and after the upgrade from 1909 to 2004, and then to 20H2.

    'Pin to Start' and 'Unpin from Start' items in Windows 10

    Bree said:
    Personally I prefer the tiles to be grey rather than blue. The 20H2 feature update makes it easier to see all the icons and tell them apart, the blue was too dominant in 2004. The icons stand out well against grey, they're harder to see against bright blue. Here's my before and after shots...




    What happened? Start color changed on it's own! - post #7
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  8. Posts : 165
    Win10 Pro
       #8

    PlasmaDrone said:
    Hey all.
    How essential is it to update to Windows 10 version 20H2? If I somehow get myself disappointed in it, is it possible to rollback to the version I'm using now when writing this post, which is Windows 10 version 1909 (OS Build 18363.1440). If so, how do I do it?
    Hi,

    Not essential no, for the moment.

    Rolling back is simply, Start > Settings > Update & security > Recovery > under Go back to my previous version of Windows 10, click Get started.
    I think I'll add another question here too, in case it's somehow related to it.
    So when I was uninstalling War Thunder from Steam, I uninstall the launcher from the Steam, and then I deleted the "War Thunder" folder from the "Steamapps" -> "Common" folder. The storage capacity was at 24 GB, and then after I deleted the folder, it gets to 56 GB. Around the same time when I was uninstalling games, Windows updater downloaded the 20H2.
    After I was done, I forgot that I either let the lappy on "Sleep" or "Shutdown". The next time I open it, I think it was the next day, I checked the storage, and I'm surprised that the storage is around 24-27 GB. I rechecked the folders, and even checked the "Users" -> "Appdata" -> "Roaming", and didn't find any trace of it. I also made sure to empty the Recycle Bin.
    Are you saying you have gained or lost GB?

    If gained, is it possible you have deleted a Win.old file, they could be large, up to 20gb?

    If lost, that's a fair old junk, I would want to know how/where.

    Did you misread the GB space?

    If I'm understanding correctly 20H2 is just a very large update but would still only require at most 10gb of free space dependent on win build it's updating.

    As a raw 20H2 OS, space requirement would be larger.

    Like dalchina I to recently installed 20H2, admittedly I'm not as adventurist with Windows as some and make do with what's given me on my plate for the most part.

    Pro's Cons, I think there is an improvement with boot times but if there is it's a blink of the eye thing, I don't use Edge, never have.

    I have noticed unresponsiveness to mouse clicks, so if I click on certain app' icons on the desktop they don't open, having to click/double click again.

    I'm happy enough with 20H2, I think most will be.

    20H2 to my mind appears more orderly but that may not suit everyone

    - - - Updated - - -

    When installing 20H2 does it create a win.old folder as I don't have one in my C, ( OS ), drive?

    I do have a 20H2 folder named 20H2 updater but it's tiny, 21.5mb?
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  9. Posts : 34,900
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #9

    Upgrading to 20H2 created Windows.old on mine - it was hidden - I found I had to make it visible. Odd, 'cos it's now permanently visible.
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  10. Posts : 165
    Win10 Pro
       #10

    dalchina said:
    Upgrading to 20H2 created Windows.old on mine - it was hidden - I found I had to make it visible. Odd, 'cos it's now permanently visible.
    Thanks, how did you make it visible?
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