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  1. milford's Avatar
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    Win 10 64 bit
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    Finally got a laptop


    After waiting for the stimulus check, and watching laptops with ending sales and going out of stock, I finally got this one...

    ASUS VivoBook R564JA-UH51T 15.6" Laptop Computer - Gray; Intel Core i5 10th Gen 1035G1 1.0GHz Processor; 8GB DDR4 - Micro Center

    Very nice, and compared to my desktop, very fast. ASUS says I can add another stick of 8GB ram for a total of 16GB. Not too bad for having to buy 1 stick only.

    Now... Questions,
    I remember reading long time ago not to use a defragger on a SSD. O.K.

    So what else is not allowed on a SSD? What is allowed or beneficial for a SSD?
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  2. dalchina's Avatar
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    Win 10 Pro (1903)
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    You can consider disabling hibernation- saves space - unless you have a particular need for it. (Also disables fast startup, which can cause problems, and is no benefit if you have a SSD).

    Normally Win 10 does everthing necessary - do not defrag. That's unless MS messes it up which they did at one point.

    Please remember to start using disk imaging routinely from day 1- before you rush into installing and configuring things. E.g. Macrium Reflect (free) + external storage for disk image files. Gives you a full backup, a second chance, even if your disk fails or the O/S is irrecoverably corrupt.
    Last edited by dalchina; 2 Weeks Ago at 12:25.
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  3. Bree's Avatar
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    10 Home x64 (20H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    milford said:
    I remember reading long time ago not to use a defragger on a SSD. O.K.
    So what else is not allowed on a SSD? What is allowed or beneficial for a SSD?
    Nice machine

    For an SSD defragmentation just makes unnecessary extra writes for no real benefit. Fragmentation doesn't affect access speed as it would on an HDD.

    What's beneficial? Well, there's a Trim function for SSDs that releases blocks that once held data that's since been deleted. It allows the SSD's internal controler to make more efficient use of the free space and even out the wear on the SSD. The Defragment and Optimize app should be set for scheduled optimization. Don't worry, it knows not to defrag an SSD, but will retrim it once a month.

    You may have heard of Over-provisioning. This is deliberately setting aside some of the storage as 'unused' to help with wear levelling. Most SSDs already have some over provisioning internally that you cannot see, but it does no harm to add some of your own. You don't need to leave an unpartitioned area, any unused free space in the existing partitions is as good. Aim to keep at least 10% of the total drive space as free space.

    Other 'don'ts' - none really. Use it as you would any drive, you are unlikely to wear it out any time soon. I have a 500GB SSD in one of my machines that gets quite heavy use (I run virtual machines on it). In 20 months it has recorded 11TB written to it (it's writing that wears out an SSD). At that rate I calculate it will take me another 40 years to reach the manufaturer's specs for 'total bytes written'. I suspect it's going to outlive me.

    Yours is (I understand) a 250GB SSD so it TBW specs will typically be about half that of mine. It would 'only' take me 20 years to wear out yours.
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  4. ignatzatsonic's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
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    milford said:
    Very nice, and compared to my desktop, very fast.
    Are you experienced on laptops generally??

    If not.......maybe pay a little extra attention to temperatures and fan speed.

    Get a temp baseline while it is new and presumably at peak health. For various locations....motherboard, CPU, etc.

    Write that stuff down, along the room temps at the time.

    Maybe get temps when in an idle condition and again when under a heavy load of some repeatable type.

    Take another peek perhaps monthly or quarterly to see if there is any significant change.

    Laptops tend to run noticeably hotter than desktops, so I wouldn't be alarmed UNLESS you see a change in the trend from the new condition. A trend higher would indicate fan failing or air vents becoming clogged.

    Use a program like HWInfo to grab those figures.....along with a lot of other stats.
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  5. milford's Avatar
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    Win 10 64 bit
    Thread Starter
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    ignatzatsonic said:
    Are you experienced on laptops generally??
    I've survived 4 Dells, a Sager, and an ASUS.
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  6. sygnus21's Avatar
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    Win 10 Pro (x64) 20H2 (19042.928)
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    milford said:
    So what else is not allowed on a SSD? What is allowed or beneficial for a SSD?
    Since day 1 of running Windows 10 (2015) I've not worried about my SSD's. I simply let Windows 10 handle my drives and keep it moving. I run 5 SSD drives - 2 NVMe, 3 SATA. Never ever an issue.

    Good luck.
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    Exactly. Plug it in and use it. That's all. Nothing more is needed.
    sygnus21 said:
    Since day 1 of running Windows 10 (2015) I've not worried about my SSD's. I simply let Windows 10 handle my drives and keep it moving. I run 5 SSD drives - 2 NVMe, 3 SATA. Never ever an issue.
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  8. Berton's Avatar
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    Win10 Pro Versions 2004 and 2009/20H2, Win10 Pro IP_Dev, Win10 Home 1909
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    I agree with @sygnus21 and @margrave55. I began back in days of 120MB HDDs, installing and uninstalling things caused a drive to store in non-contiguous clusters which slowed things down so defragging was important to make contiguous space available and get the benefit of faster reading, less searching for parts of a file. With larger drives becoming available it was not quite as important so I just let Windows take care of things.
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  9. Edwin's Avatar
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    Windows 10
       #9

    milford said:
    ...I finally got this one...
    Nice! I've got an X512..., you'll like it!
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  10. milford's Avatar
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    Win 10 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Any problems running Ccleaner daily? I've used sfc /ScanNow and DISM on older computers. Are these safe to run on the SSD?
    Thanks.
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