Windows 11??

Hiyya Steve yes mate well at least the laptop has the requirements but I have just checked the BIOS in my main desktop and there is no TPM on the board. It is a crying shame because I put a lot of effort not to mention money into building that machine but as you say at least we can run 10 until 2025. Plus I have no intentions of converting the laptop any time soon anyway.
Frankly it one of those "when you thought it was safe to go back in the water" moments eh?

Doubtless in coming years there will be yet more versions that become more and more complicated (in my view) but at my age I have no worries about them unless I can get to 100 years old of course but by then I guess I shall be gaga and in some nursing home

Sorry to hear that both of your PC's are not capable mate it is certainly a sucker punch eh?

bobkn said:

...and the Lenovo laptop has the Intel equivalent firmware TPM. Haven't checked whether it's TPM 2.0 compatible yet.

I'll be interested in hearing Microsoft's rationale for the TPM 2.0 requirement. Looked at cynically, they just don't want to support 11 on older hardware. Damn, but this will irk a lot of enthusiasts with good hardware that lacks TPM support.

I wonder if MS will relent if there are enough complaints? Or, maybe if they are copying some of the MacOS appearance features, they will also copy Apple's we-know-what's-best-for-you arrogance. (My last major Apple purchase was a Quadra 700, on closeout in 1993. A while ago.)

Yes bobkn I have found that my motherboard in my main desktop which I built some years ago has a spot to connect a TPM module but finding one is just about impossible now I would guess.
But like you I just wonder why they are insisting on a TPM being in situ

Yes Steve it is all very complicated and I have searched everywhere for the TPM module bu just cannot find one that is specific to the board. Why on earth they did not include this on the board at manufacture as a preemptive measure for future use is beyond me.
Still I will look on Amazon as you suggest there might be one there I suppose even if it is a generic one but I think that using one like that might brick the board eh?

steve108 said:

It's a 5+ year old Dell desktop. No mention of TPM in BIOS and no TPM sockets on the motherboard

Same for my 2014 Dell laptop. My 2019 HP Laptop has TPM 2.0 though.

ICIT2LOL said:

Yes bobkn I have found that my motherboard in my main desktop which I built some years ago has a spot to connect a TPM module but finding one is just about impossible now I would guess.
But like you I just wonder why they are insisting on a TPM being in situ

Indeed. My 2012 Gigabyte motherboard has a 20 pin TPM 1.2 connector but the approved Gigabyte TPM module is no longer available. I did find a Foxconn 20 pin TPM module on eBay but there are some differences between that and the Gigabyte motherboard socket in the connector pin connections which is odd since I thought the TPM connector would be a common standard.

Steve C said:

Indeed. My 2012 Gigabyte motherboard has a 20 pin TPM 1.2 connector but the approved Gigabyte TPM module is no longer available. I did find a Foxconn 20 pin TPM module on eBay but there are some differences between that and the Gigabyte motherboard socket in the connector pin connections which is odd since I thought the TPM connector would be a common standard.

That is exactly what I have got too Steve and the chances of getting a module is pretty slim if not impossible. As I said why they were not included as a preemptive feature on the board by the makers is a mystery to me so a thumbs down for Asus and any board brand that did the same. They must have known back then that the module would be something of a standard thing one day eh?
Like you I found one Asus TPM on Amazon but it was only a 14-1 pin set up and I am not game to try it as I suppose it could brick the board.

I suspect that TPM requirement is because they plan on using BitLocker or some kind of encryption for sensitive system files at least. That could increase security very much.