Windows 11??

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  1. Posts : 7,830
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

    ICIT2LOL said:
    Have just seen a YouTube detailing out a new version of Windows - Windows 11. Ha s anyone got any idea of when this will be rolled out and what is the life expectancy of Windows 10 now?
    I have several machines and frankly I am loathe to put any new versions on any of them to be honest although I will still have to get the 11 version for my two main computers.

    Anyone got anymore info on this?

    Your post is premature since April 1st is 2 weeks away
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  2. Posts : 18,045
    Win 10 Pro 64-bit v1909 - Build 18363 Custom ISO Install

    Well put together video. I like the phasing in and out approach.

    If you look at peoples Win 10 systems, it would be hard to find a basic system being used after install. Everybody likes their system to look the way they want it to look, which possibly involves hours of trying and testing different scenarios, .REG tweaking, etc. A lot of things CAN'T be achieved from within Win 10 itself, so the use of third-party tools is used, which could possibly open up a whole new can of worms.

    Anyway, without going on, and as I have always said, it would be nice for MS to introduce a Customisation Package for users. This would be far better as it should work without causing disruptions that third-party tools etc could. I am not talking about tools like DISM, WAIK, Auto-Unattend, ,BAT files, .PS1 files etc, I am talking about a package for the average Win 10 user.

    Just my thoughts!
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  3. Posts : 4,736
    Windows 10 preview 64-bit Home
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  4. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux

    Hi folks

    One has to love Photoshop !!

    How about a bit of "Back to the Future" !!!! - XP reminder anyone !!!

    Windows 11??-screenshot_20210318_090950.png

    Actually if one could separate the basic GUI from the actual Business end of Windows - e.g kernel, services, task management, batch services etc it should be possible to produce a basic solid standard Windows system and then incredibly easy and safe way to customise the GUI / screen bits.

    I think Android, Linux and the OS on Apple machines work that way - the windowing or "X" server is totally separate to the base kernel.

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  5. Posts : 1,746
    Windows 10 Pro x64 22H2

    While I knew about how Windows 10 is serviced, I must admit the way how licensing Windows 10 works in regard to paying for OS is completely alien to me.

    Paying 200 bucks for a lifetime was just hard to believe because Windows was never so cheap.

    I did quick research and it appears the "reference" that I was looking for is in new Windows OS EULA:

    Installation and Use Rights.

    a. License. The software is licensed, not sold. Under this agreement, we grant you the right to install and run one instance of the software on your device (the licensed device), for use by one person at a time, so long as you comply with all the terms of this agreement.


    b. Device. In this agreement, “device” means a hardware system (whether physical or virtual) with an internal storage device capable of running the software. A hardware partition or blade is considered to be a device.
    I still don't quite understand one thing, why would MS degrade their profit for selling lifetime license instead of taking money every few years as it was the case until W10? What's the trick here?
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  6. Posts : 18,407
    Windows 11 Pro

    zebal said:
    I still don't quite understand one thing, why would MS degrade their profit for selling lifetime license instead of taking money every few years as it was the case until W10? What's the trick here?
    Because Microsoft can make a lot more money with the things they include with Windows 10 then they can just from selling Windows 10 itself. So the more copies of Windows 10 they have active, the more money they make from the things they include with it. For example, the trial version of Office 365 that the user then has to pay to convert to an Office 365 subscription. Another example is targeted advertising. Also, all the trial versions of third party software and games that users like to complain about. Those companies pay Microsoft for clicks on those trial versions.

    When Microsoft says to Spotify, we can put an ad for your program in front of a billion potential customers right on their computer desktops, how much revenue is Microsoft going to get from Spotify for that?
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  7. Posts : 1,746
    Windows 10 Pro x64 22H2

    That makes sense indeed, thank you for reply!
    So basically Microsoft is becoming similar to google? (in regard to generating profit)

    In the long run google will feel this in their pockets for sure.
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  8. Posts : 18,407
    Windows 11 Pro

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  9. Posts : 1,678

    The world has changed. Operating systems are no longer the money makers.
    zebal said:
    It sounds little strange for Microsoft to stop rolling out new versions of the most profitable product they have.
    As google proved years ago it's all about driving traffic.

    If you look at the developments in Windows you'll notice that there have been "updates" ... but no improvements. The OS has become background infrastructure.

    Microsoft is focused on the cloud (Azure) as the real money maker.
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  10. Posts : 17,838
    Windows 10

    I'd pay money for that!
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