Computer Stuck in Automatic Repair Loop

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  1. Posts : 9
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #11

    Macboatmaster said:
    I am unsure if we have a BSOD with an error
    I think we may be talking about the advanced recovery options etc - blue background screen
    That's correct. Sorry, I didn't know what else to call it. Like I said in the original post, I've tried resetting the PC, going to a restore point, and attempted to reboot in safe mode and none of those worked.
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  2. Posts : 1,564
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #12

    but I will check whether or not the standoff was moved while removing the screw.
    so have you checked please and what happens if you remove the drive - the samsung, as against uninstalling the driver for it.

    Also have you checked the firmware setup to establish if the boot to Windows boot manager has for some reason - been changed, although I suspect at this stage it is an issue with the drive.
    Last edited by Macboatmaster; 13 Mar 2021 at 15:09.
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  3. Posts : 9
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #13

    Macboatmaster said:
    so have you checked please and what happens if you remove the drive - the samsung, as against uninstalling the driver for it.
    Yes, and it seems like the standoff is perfectly fine. I've also checked that the computer still reads that the boot manager is there, so maybe you're right about the drive.
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  4. Posts : 1,564
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #14

    Cheers
    So does it boot normally if you remove the newly installed drive.
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  5. Posts : 9
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #15

    Macboatmaster said:
    Cheers
    So does it boot normally if you remove the newly installed drive.
    Unfortunately, it does not. That was the first thing I tried once I realized it wasn't working.
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  6. Posts : 1,564
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #16

    With the drive out - on the advanced options
    enter uefi firmware settings
    reset to optimized default
    save and exit
    reboot and try again

    Perhaps I should have asked before now - I take it this was a NEW drive, there was nothing installed on the drive and you never installed anything on it after installation of the drive before the problem occurred.
    Last edited by Macboatmaster; 13 Mar 2021 at 16:39.
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  7. Posts : 9
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #17

    Macboatmaster said:
    With the drive out - on the advanced options
    enter uefi firmware settings
    reset to optimized default
    save and exit
    reboot and try again

    Perhaps I should have asked before now - I take it this was a NEW drive, there was nothing installed on the drive and you never installed anything on it after installation of the drive before the problem occurred.
    I just tried it and it didn't work.

    Yes, this is a completely new drive out of the box. It wasn't until after I put it in that my computer started doing this.
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  8. Posts : 1,564
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #18

    Do you have another computer running 10 and a usb flash pen
    If so go to that computer
    Download the free Macrium Reflect
    Macrium Software | Macrium Reflect Free

    where it asks you to insert your email you do not have to do so, it will still download without that
    Install the program this other computer.

    Then connect your usb flash pen, format it and open the Macrium reflect
    click on the GUI - Other tasks and then create rescue media
    as per my screenshot

    You MAY be thinking - how is that going to work - on my computer with the problem - please trust me - when you boot the computer with the problem from the usb, it will find the installation on that computer albeit it was made on another.

    - - - Updated - - -

    When you have the computer booted from the rescue media - firstly establish it is seeing the drive with windows 10
    the computer will boot to the WindowsPE environment and display the macrium GUI
    It will open on the restore tab of the Macrium GUI
    Click the backup tab to change to that.
    Those are the two tabs below the menu bar
    When you click the backup tab - you should then see your drive with the windows 10 installation
    Are the partitions on the drive shown eg the system, MSR, Windows and the Recovery - or whatever you know the partitions to have been

    You can then make a basic read only check of the partitions by selecting each and the actions arrow will then move to that partition, where you can then click the drop arrow by the side of actions and select "analyse file system"

    Presuming that NO obvious errors are seen I then recommend you change to the Restore tab and then select
    Fix Windows Boot problems.

    Another window will open - Fix Boot Problems - Installed Windows Operating Systems
    you then continue from there - as guided on the notes as each window opens.

    YOU MAY wish if you have an external drive and you DO NOT already have an image of the existing M2 drive with windows 10 and Macrium PE has found it - to make an image of the drive - all the partitions on it - before you complete the FIX boot solution - to the original problem - if indeed that is a corruption of the BCD on the M2 drive.
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  9. Posts : 9
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #19

    Macboatmaster said:
    Do you have another computer running 10 and a usb flash pen
    If so go to that computer
    Download the free Macrium Reflect
    Macrium Software | Macrium Reflect Free

    where it asks you to insert your email you do not have to do so, it will still download without that
    Install the program this other computer.

    Then connect your usb flash pen, format it and open the Macrium reflect
    click on the GUI - Other tasks and then create rescue media
    as per my screenshot

    You MAY be thinking - how is that going to work - on my computer with the problem - please trust me - when you boot the computer with the problem from the usb, it will find the installation on that computer albeit it was made on another.

    - - - Updated - - -

    When you have the computer booted from the rescue media - firstly establish it is seeing the drive with windows 10
    the computer will boot to the WindowsPE environment and display the macrium GUI
    It will open on the restore tab of the Macrium GUI
    Click the backup tab to change to that.
    Those are the two tabs below the menu bar
    When you click the backup tab - you should then see your drive with the windows 10 installation
    Are the partitions on the drive shown eg the system, MSR, Windows and the Recovery - or whatever you know the partitions to have been

    You can then make a basic read only check of the partitions by selecting each and the actions arrow will then move to that partition, where you can then click the drop arrow by the side of actions and select "analyse file system"

    Presuming that NO obvious errors are seen I then recommend you change to the Restore tab and then select
    Fix Windows Boot problems.

    Another window will open - Fix Boot Problems - Installed Windows Operating Systems
    you then continue from there - as guided on the notes as each window opens.

    YOU MAY wish if you have an external drive and you DO NOT already have an image of the existing M2 drive with windows 10 and Macrium PE has found it - to make an image of the drive - all the partitions on it - before you complete the FIX boot solution - to the original problem - if indeed that is a corruption of the BCD on the M2 drive.
    I followed this to the letter and I think it ended up making it worse. It didn't find anything wrong with my drive and I attempted the Fix Boot Solution, but now when it boots back up, it doesn't even let me go to the advanced recovery options. It just says that my PC made multiple attempts to boot up and only gives me the options to try again, access the UEFI, change the startup behavior, and go to the recovery options, which as I said does not work.
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  10. Posts : 1,564
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #20

    1. On the fix boot issues screen did you have the EFI system partition
    System partition
    The device must contain a system partition. On GPT drives, this is known as the EFI System Partition, or the ESP. This partition is usually stored on the primary hard drive. The device boots to this partition.
    The minimum size of this partition is 100 MB, and must be formatted using the FAT32 file format.

    2. If so when you configured the repair boot you should have had the option to select the partition from which the boot would be made and it on your windows 10 made from that partition.
    Please see my screenshot

    3. Yours will not look exactly like that, as this is a 10 and 7 dual boot

    4. If you did have the EFI system partition and did not select that then please go back and try that. It will rewrite the bcd
    that you now have.

    5. See if that changes anything please.
    =============================================================================================
    6. If that produces no result I recommend most strongly that you use the Macrium to IMAGE that drive to an external hard drive. Image the complete drive - all partitions.
    Here is the full user guide to Macrium.
    https://updates.macrium.com/reflect/...user_guide.pdf

    =================================================================================================

    7. Then please go here
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...load/windows10

    follow procedure for download tool now and the - using tool to create installation media
    Follow these steps to create installation media (USB flash drive or DVD) you can use to install a new copy of Windows 10, perform a clean installation, or reinstall Windows 10.
    The tool will automatically create the usb for you.
    THIS must be made on a Windows computer

    8. Then boot from the usb on your computer with the problem
    See here and follow option 5 please
    Boot to Advanced Startup Options in Windows 10
    NOTE
    The Reset this PC option in "Troubleshoot" and Startup Settings option in "Advanced options" will not be available using this option.

    9. Try a startup repair - three times - as here at point 8
    Run Startup Repair in Windows 10
    Run Startup Repair again:
    Click/tap on Advanced options, and go to step 2 above. Sometimes it may take running Startup Repair up to 3 times and restarting the PC each time to fix the startup issue.


    10. If that does not work go to
    command prompt
    Post back please when at this stage OR when you have some other stage of progress to report.

    11. May I stress the importance of imaging the M2 drive before you progress to any attempted repairs, as I mentioned on my previous post and again here, just in case something goes really amiss OR indeed we have to proceed to a clean install.
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