Windows 10 over GNU/Linux because of creation time support

pparks1 · 16 Feb 2021

The Pool Man said:

1. Software installs on Linux are a fiasco. There are four different ways to do this: terminal, package manager, snap stores, and downloading direct. Pick any method and if something goes wrong (which isn't rare) a Linux type will say "there was a better way to do that". There are various ways to install apps/programs on Macs and PCs. They all work flawlessly.

The installs can be hit or miss. Again, on the server front, typically things are more straight-forward and just often work.

For example, if you need an apache server installed to run a web page, it's drop dead simple. (you could cut and paste this into your terminal and you are done. It installs apache, it enables apache in the firewall, it sets up apache to start when the box boots, and it creates a default web page for apache to serve up, and it checks to see if the site is running.

yum install -y httpd
firewall-cmd --permanent --add-port=80/tcp
systemctl --now enable httpd
echo "TenForums Rules" > /var/www/html/index.html
curl localhost

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Let's say that you needed to install git to download some code. On windows, you can navigate to Git - Downloading Package, find the right version (32 or 64bit), download it, double click on the exe file and click through all of the next, next, next, next finish buttons. On CentOS 7, it's 1 command : yum install -y git

I have been in a sticky situation from time to time, so i understand the frustrations you have been though. But more often than not, installs for most things go just like I demonstrated above, a couple of commands, cut and paste, easy to document, etc.

The Pool Man · 16 Feb 2021

pparks1 said:

Perhaps for running desktop and desktop style apps. -- My experience with trying to use Ubuntu, SuSE or mint as a desktop replacement has been simply not worth the effort to me.

Yes. I'm talking desktop.

pparks1 · 16 Feb 2021

The Pool Man said:

Yes. I'm talking desktop.

Yeah, i get some shit at work as I am a Linux systems engineer, but I choose to use a Windows laptop. Most of our Linux and Unix admins all use Mac's....but I honestly just don't love the Mac. I have a MacBook Pro that I use at home, that I bought in 2014 simply to learn more about the Mac. I just don't feel that it's all that intuitive, I don't like being locked into the Apple way of doing things, and I don't feel that when problems arise, I have nearly as much skill at debugging and fixing the issue. With Windows, I feel totally comfortable with everything and this keeps my productivity up. And every place I have worked has been a windows shop, (Active Directory, Exchange, MS SQL, etc), so native tools just run better for these things. As my current job is more cloud centric, things like AWS, Azure and GCP work fine in windows or MacOS.

The Pool Man · 16 Feb 2021

pparks1 said:

I honestly just don't love the Mac. -- I just don't feel that it's all that intuitive, I don't like being locked into the Apple way of doing things--

I spent 29 years on Apple. I would have gone back by now if I missed it. I don't, after 5 years of Windows 10. That said --

-- I consider 10 a visual and organizational mess. That somehow works despite itself, but boy does it need polish.

They've given Panos the OS to fix. He says he wants people to look forward to turning on their PCs instead of feeling 'stuck' with Windows. Amen to that. They're not that far from offering an OS that Mac users would say, hey, this isn't really that bad. I've seen some big shot YouTubers flip saying those exact words. But a polished Windows 10 could be 10 times better without changing much.

The way a dirty new car won't sell at a dealership but a shiny one with new car smell will. They're that close IMO.

This is the correct direction --

Introducing Windows 20 (Concept by Avdan) - YouTube