Will we see a 32 bit preview of W9 ?

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    Hi Jody,

    W8.1 x86 runs like a dream. I struggled with the WiFi on the 64 bit and also noticed that there were very few offered drivers from MS for that version. The x86 auto installed a working (and working well) NVidia graphics driver despite me having updates set to notify only. It knew :) that the system was unusable without that one driver and so went ahead and installed it. The processor is an AMD Turion 64 and has no problems that I know of.

    The only real difference I notice between the x86 on the Acer and the x64 on the Dell is that the Dell has the fantastic quick boot and shutdown times offered by W8.1, the Acer doesn't seem able to use that facility. Quick as in 13 to 14 seconds from hitting the power button to being on-line with the desktop or start screen fully populated. The Dell with its i5 processor is a lot snappier but that's only to be expected.
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       #12

    @ Mooly, there are some drivers included with the install media that will get installed whether you have updates enabled or not. Some are required for the OS to run in the first place. Why did you uninstall the NVidia driver? Did you install a newer version?
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       #13

    I haven't uninstalled any drivers. W8 preview didn't offer any and it was up to me to try and find usable ones... not very successfully I might add. They all gave major start up and shut down errors.

    W8.1 x86 (the Enterprise edition) installed like a dream. A working NVidia driver was installed without me doing anything. I've left that one in place.
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    Ops, sorry, I misread your post and thought you uninstalled it. I hadn't had my morning coffee at the time, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

    A lot of times with preview releases, the OEM haven't updated their drivers and submitted them to Microsoft. By the time the official version comes out though they have, and a lot of your basic drivers are backed into the OS and install in the background. The latecomers then eventually show up on windows update.
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    No problem :)
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    Mooly said:
    Just wondering because I'd really like to try it out, however I would be installing it on an older laptop which was a non starter for W8.1 x64 due to non availability of drivers. The x86 version I managed to get to run well.
    While there will probably be an x86 version, it may be only the non-pro version, or even starter version for tablets that are running 32 bit atom processors (there are 64 bit atom processors, but vendors are still making 32 bit tablets).

    In addition, the 32 bit version and 64 bit version may require a UEFI bios, so if your laptop isn't UEFI then it may not work. (This is just speculation on my part).

    Finally, even if it doesn't require a UEFI bios, it may require a more modern BIOS that supports functions your model doesn't. Or, the driver model may change enough that your 32 bit 8.x drivers won't work in 9.

    So, it's hard to say whether it will work or not...
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    Mystere said:
    So, it's hard to say whether it will work or not...
    :) Thanks,
    Well I guess the waiting time is nearly over and so I'll soon find out one way or the other. The old Acer (by todays standards) is very pedestrian but it does run W8.1 amazingly well and trouble free. Last BIOS update for it was over 6 years ago I think... I am running the latest though.
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    adamf said:
    If you create your VM as a VHD or VHDX type then you can run it as a VM or dual boot it. Probably...

    Windows 8 VHD - Create at Boot to Dual Boot with
    Good way to go !

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    Mooly said:
    Thanks for that. I've never been down the VM road (so I'd be starting as a total beginner) but it certainly looks a workable option if I hit installation issues.


    Thanks :)
    VM is only good if you want to see how the OS looks and how the interface goes.
    I understand that direct installation may not be an option to a lot of people, but if you are testing an OS, it's also good to see how the OS taps the PC's full resources, how it affects the overall performance and be able to find out what drivers you will need to make all your peripherals and hardware add-ons to work the way they should. You can't totally judge an OS via VM. You may find that Win 9 works to your liking via VM, but direct installation will be a totally different thing (esp. when it comes to hardware driver compatibility). It may not be as easy as installing it on VM. But again, if one just wants to see how it goes and be able to join the discussion, VM is not a bad idea.
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    I alwayes prefered "bare metal" to VMs, but they're quite handy in many testing scenarios !

    :)
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