Can't enter BIOS/UEFI or boot from a device

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  1. Posts : 34
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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       #41

    Megahertz said:
    You tried almost everything.
    I would try to reset the BIOS by taking off the coin battery.
    On some Laptops isn't a easy task.
    I tried that already. Disconnected both batteries. Don't know how long should be disconnected before I turn the power on? Last time it was bout 15 min.
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  2. Posts : 6,968
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP - Lubuntu
       #42

    When you disconnected both batteries (Main and coin) did it reset the clock?
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  3. Posts : 34
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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       #43

    Megahertz said:
    When you disconnected both batteries (Main and coin) did it reset the clock?
    Not sure, I was unable to enter BIOS to check.
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  4. Posts : 1,079
    10 + Linux
       #44

    igork said:
    Not sure, I was unable to enter BIOS to check.
    Removing the 2 batteries for resetting the BIOS password takes more than 12 hours, full night. When reset, Tor browser won't launch > Wrong date and time.

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    Since sys info shows legacy mode and that you have damaged the partitioning scheme, it will be hard to get Windows back in the UEFI mode unless the conversion is done with an app doing so. Consider yourself lucky for having Windows booting to desktop in legacy mode. Backup important stuff.

    Our Thinkpad boots in the BIOS with F1. We don't have the NOVO button. It is possible to boot in a bootable stick with F10 (boot menu), but boot order must be disabled. Otherwise, when locked or enabled, F10 boots in Lenovo Diagnostics & Tools. In your case, you would have to select repair bad sectors. Not sure it would work.

    For Lenovo, rewriting the same BIOS version does not work, previous one works. Repeat twice to get the latest back. In order to solved your bug, our suggestion would be to boot with Linux Mint installer (GPT) in compatibility mode and rewrite the HDD with Linux.When you boot in Mint (F10), you have the option to boot in the BIOS, last one in the menu.

    Try it first prior erasing the hard disk (HD).

    Download Mint and get Rufus latest (GPT):
    Linux Mint 20.1 "Ulyssa" - Cinnamon (64-bit) - Linux Mint
    Rufus - The Official Website (Download, New Releases)

    I hope this will restore BIOS behaviors.

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    Force BIOS Access

    To force the BIOS, disconnect one end of the HDD, be gentle and open the computer. Press F2, go to startup and set the boot order to disabled (first screenshot). See if the machine is set to UEFI only or Both?

    Be gentle again and do a cold shutdown.

    Replace the HDD wire and the back cover properly. The bootable device is seen only if boot order is disabled F10.

    Take care,
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    Last edited by MikeMecanic; 11 Feb 2021 at 16:55.
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  5. Posts : 18,473
    Windows 11 Pro
       #45

    MikeMecanic said:
    Since sys info shows legacy mode and that you have damaged the partitioning scheme, it will be hard to get Windows back in the UEFI mode unless the conversion is done with an app doing so. Consider yourself lucky for having Windows booting to desktop in legacy mode. Backup important stuff.
    All you have to do to enable booting in UEFI mode is to shrink the C: drive (OS) partition by 100 MB and create a FAT32 partition for the computer to boot from. The only major roadblock to doing that is if the MBR drive already contains 4 primary partitions and you cannot create a FAT32 primary partition. Otherwise, a few diskpart commands and 5 minutes is all it takes.
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  6. Posts : 34
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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       #46

    So, I have tried several things. I left the Notepad for 14h with no batteries connected. Started again, no change, no BIOS.
    Tried again with disconnecting the SSD, like MikeMecanic suggested. Tried both when turned on and off. Gets me to simple boot manager outside BIOS, like when I disconnected SSD before. .

    Tried in DISKPART to make a new volume. I shrunk it to new 500MB partition, marked it as active. No BIOS. Now the computer starts with boot manager, so makes it easier to boot from USB.

    I want to give it a shot with Linux Mint. Started it in compatibility mode, but I do not have knowledge to rewrite the SSD in Mint like MikeMecanic suggested, I would appreciate if somebody can help with that.

    Data on the disk is not of importance, don't worry about that.

    Once again, thank you all for suggestions.

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    To avoid possible confusion, this is the boot "manager"/menu that I am talking about, it is not inside the BIOS.

    Can't enter BIOS/UEFI or boot from a device-menub.jpg
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  7. Posts : 1,079
    10 + Linux
       #47

    You are making progress!

    The screenshot shows the content of F10 or the boot menu. All you have to do now is to insert a bootable stick, Windows or Mint and click enter on the USB device name with the down arrow. The compatibility mode is just in case the machine does not support Linux. The first option in the menu is also good.

    Follow the procedure = delete all partitions and rewrite the SSD default (In Mint, select erase disk instead of selecting alongside Windows). Avoid changing the time zone, keep New-York or the one that is displayed, Windows does not have the time zone setup.

    Mint installation takes about 5 minutes, Windows less than 10.
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  8. Posts : 34
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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       #48

    MikeMecanic said:
    You are making progress!

    The screenshot shows the content of F10 or the boot menu. All you have to do now is to insert a bootable stick, Windows or Mint and click enter on the USB device name with the down arrow. The compatibility mode is just in case the machine does not support Linux. The first option in the menu is also good.

    Follow the procedure = delete all partitions and rewrite the SSD default (In Mint, select erase disk instead of selecting alongside Windows). Avoid changing the time zone, keep New-York or the one that is displayed, Windows does not have the time zone setup.

    Mint installation takes about 5 minutes, Windows less than 10.
    I had last few days installed Win 10 about 5-6 times to try to solve the problem and tried again today. Windows are installed successfully but still no BIOS. Does not work. I can not convert to GPT in the installation (Shift+F10/Diskpart) because it has been booted in Legacy mode.
    I think I can safely assume that Windows installation will not by itself return / reorder the partitions/settings/BCD or I don't know what to the state where I can start using BIOS/UEFI again. If I could force conversion of SSD to GPT, maybe that would help...

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    I managed to open the BIOS!!!! Think I cried a bit...

    The solution was:
    1. Create a partition in Windows Diskpart, and mark it as active, so the machine tries to boot from it.
    2. That opened Boot menu upon next startup (although physically removing the SSD also works) , which allowed me to boot Linux Mint (I suppose that other Linux packages would work, but did not try).
    3. From the terminal entered:
    Code:
    systemctl reboot --firmware-setup
    4. BAM! Goes to BIOS.

    Here is how it looks like, total mess:
    Can't enter BIOS/UEFI or boot from a device-bios-again.jpg


    Once again, many many thanks to everybody that posted here, you helped a lot!
    Now to see what happens next...

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    Update.
    There is one thing tho. I still can not enter BIOS/UEFI normally, with a hotkey or even with NOVO button. Very strange. But I can at least use the option from Advanced startup to go to UEFI.
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  9. Posts : 18,473
    Windows 11 Pro
       #49

    It looks like your BIOS is corrupt. I would reflash it.
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  10. Posts : 34
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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       #50

    NavyLCDR said:
    It looks like your BIOS is corrupt. I would reflash it.
    Seems that I already have the only available BIOS version from official Lenovo support webpage and it will not flash.
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