Windows 7 & Windows 10 Dual Boot

Okay I am not sure where this post should be so here goes.
I am running a Windows 7 & Windows 10 Dual Boot on 2 seperate 250 GB Hard Drives I am not using boot manager like easybcd or windows boot manager to link them under a common bootloader I am going into the bios very rebbot and selecting which O.S I am wanting to use there are less problems for me doing it that way.
I know I am still using the Win-10-1709 version and I DON'T want to upgrade to the currnet version I am fine with what it is doing except for one thing.

When I boot into windows 10 and work for a while I am having to take ownership and resetting file and folder permissions in both operating systems every time I reboot as well as just working in Windows 10 normally and it is getting really annoying as I am needing to have access to the Windows 7 hard drive frequently so disconnecting it is not an option not to mention that I have an additional 4 X 2 TB drives connected for extra data storage only.

I am having to take ownership and reset file and folder permissions on ALL of my hard drives on a regular basis and it is getting really annoying and I am wanting to know if there is any way to stop windows 10 from doing this repetitively and just leave things alone,windows 7 doesnt' do that and is not any issue of concern in this matter.
It is hard to get any work done when I am having to take ownership all the time!!

Windows 10 pro 1709_10.0.16299

Samuria said:

When you create a folder its owned by the person who created it or if in the profile it inherits from above. You dont want to save files to anything in a users folder as it has special permisions create a folder you can put things in you want to share set the folder with everyone having writes.

The problem is if you take ownership next time you try from another version you cant access so thats the problem

Thanks for the help I see what you are saying but no folders or files have been created in any users folders by me other than installations.

What I am wanting is to shut off ALL permissions and have everything owned and accessible by "Everyone" at all times and and have all of that gone!!.
I am familiar access control lists and what they used to call Active Directory as well as Group Policy.
What I am trying to ask is there any workaround to make all of that go away permanently and never be bothered with it again.!!,I have cloned 1 Hard Drive for each O.S so I am not worried about any down time or security issues.

I have done a lot of I.T. work in the past though I was out of the business from 2012 until about a year ago so I am having to play catch up on what happened since Windows-7/Server 2008-R2.

idgat said:

Always going to happen while trying to access the user system folders - (My) Documents, (My) Music, (My) Pictures, etc etc from different OS installations. Constantly needing to take Ownership is (obviously) a pain.

Solution : don't store commonly accessed files in user system folders on either system. Create a separate partition (you could create a folder, but that would be still "mixed" in with other folders on whatever OS you created in/with). That partition would be visible to both OSs but not "owned" by either.

Any reason why dual boot? Much easier to use virtual system (VirtualBox, free) and install Windows 7 "in" VB running in Windows 10. Same requirements for ownership will apply 9and ths extra partition suggestion) but will save booting in and out between OSs when you want to swap.

No I don't store much in the system folders I learned that was a pain years back.
And I got used to dual booting on different physical drives way back when virtualization wasnt really that great and bare metal installs were still the preferred method so I still do it and in each O.S I have a virtual install of the other O.S and soon to add another H.D. with MX Linux on it and virtualize win-7 and 10 inside of that

I could do like you suggest and shrink the partitions and have a storage partition on each boot drive I didnt think of that but it would take that ownership issue out of the equation wouldnt it. as I have 4 X 2TB storage drives for data storage I am not worried about running out of space.
I store some system related materials in non system folders created in the root of each drive, I use as many portable apps as possible so as not to need to install as much into the system folders as back in the XP / Server 2003 days as it helped to avoid system problems.
Thanks for the good advice!!!

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Samuria said:

There is great danger letting everyone run amuck i was changed after the ransome ware attacks that killed 1,000 of pcs once a hacker or malware get on a pc like that it can do what it wants

Yes I have heard all about that stuff and the attacks seem to be escalating globally all the time is getting scary but if I am doing a lot of work on my main computer I take it off the internet as much as possible,I do have others to get out on the internet.
And I do have plenty of backups for almost everything .
It would be a real pain if that happened to me but I could recovery in time.

Indianatone said:

Use Easy BCD to create a boot menu.
You can get it free here: Registration Required. They just send emails from time to time about new versions of their software.
https://neosmart.net/Download/Register

The bcdboot command will do it in one single line command:
bcdboot D:\Windows /d /addlast

Just change D:\Windows to whatever drive letter the other installation of Windows is actually on.

AddRAM said:

My 1st question is...

Why are you going into the Bios, why aren`t you using the Boot Menu ?

Set your default OS and just use the Boot Menu to boot into the other.

You`ve done the right thing, keeping each OS totally separate from the other.

I have tried both the windows bootloader and Easy BCD and it either doesn't work or it works for a while and then has errors and i am having to do the recovery disk on one or both, and several times that didn't work.
Also as windows has a habit of spreading the boot files across multiple drives if one of the H.D's fail then Sometimes you cant boot into the one other good ones.
It just seems easier to avoid all of the hassle and leave them seperate.

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NavyLCDR said:

The bcdboot command will do it in one single line command:
bcdboot D:\Windows /d /addlast

Just change D:\Windows to whatever drive letter the other installation of Windows is actually on.

Thanks for the info but I have tried that with mixed results as well sometimes it works and sometimes not.

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Since I have 2 cloned Hard Drives and soon to add a third with MX Linux installed I am considering trying EasyBCD and or the windows bootloader again to see if I can get it to work right.
If it goes sideways again I will have the 3 separate installs to get work done.
Thanks to all for the expert advice I will give it a try over the weekend ,that's when I have time to tinker with things and I will post back to if things resolve as I am wanting.