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  1.    17 Aug 2015 #1

    Sr. Citizen Question: Which HP PC Desktop Question ?


    Hello,

    Sr. Citizen now, and would appreciate some help..
    Have had an HP Desktop for a number of years.
    Not perfect, but have had good luck with it. Time for a new one, though.

    Am considering another, new Desktop with W10.

    Their site doesn't allow a comparison, item by item, so a bit confusing.
    A lot of the nuances escape me now.

    Was wondering if anyone has a spare minute or two, can discuss the differences between their
    three Envy Dektops with W10:

    And, if worth the price differential for the two that are more expensive ?

    750 z for $ 650
    750 st for 700
    750 qe for 850

    I do a lot of internet surfing, playing wit Photos (of the Grandkid, naturally), but no gaming, social media, etc.
    A fair amount of YouTube viewing.

    BTW: Think a Lenovo or Dell Desktop offers better quality ? Why ?

    HP Desktops still thought of as a "reasonably" quality built product ?

    Much thanks,
    appreciate the help,
    Bob
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  2.    17 Aug 2015 #2
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 119
    Windows 7 (reverted back)

    Difficult to tell which is best.
    the stuff you mention you do on the PC is not very heavy for both the Processor and the amount of memory used.

    Whether you prefer Dell or HP or Lenovo is more or less the same as why some people drive a BMW/ Mercedes or Volkswagen.
    None of them are bad.... but you might like one better than the other

    Some general specifications:

    Processor: I3 is minimal, I5 would be better
    Memory: 4GB minimal, 6GB better
    Hard drive: preferably an SSD 256 GB (Solid state) for Windows etc en a 2 - 3GB normal drive for your data.
    Screen: HD 1920 x 1080 22inch diagonal

    Hope this helps
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  3.    17 Aug 2015 #3
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 11
    Windows 10 Pro

    Envy Desktop | HP® Official Store Here is a link with all that Models specs and the 750 QE is overkill for what you doing if it was me I would look at the XT version might fit your needs check it out, but if you could afford the Qe go for it its a nice Desktop. Lenovo is good also and so is Dell. I build my own and desktops are of good quality usually today.
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  4.    17 Aug 2015 #4
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 243
    Win 10 Pro 64bit

    I think that the HP systems are overpriced, the prices are for the base models, but the key difference are:

    Z - AMD CPU, AMD Chipset, AMD integrated graphics, Windows 7

    XT- Intel i3 CPU, Intel Chipset, Intel integrated graphics, 12GB RAM, Windows 8

    QE - Intel i7 CPU, Intel Chipset, Intel integrated graphics, 2TB Hard Drive, Windows 8


    The QE is way higher spec than you need, I would avoid the Z with the AMD chips, which leaves the XT.

    However, I would save yourself some money and get one of the Dell Desktops, the i5 model for $499.99 is the best value, it's still higher spec than you need and comes with Windows 10.

    Just remember to remove any of the extras they try to get you to buy when you make the purchase!

    Inspiron Desktop | Dell
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  5.    17 Aug 2015 #5
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 122
    Windows 10

    I would recommend not getting another desktop system. And until it's known if HP is going to keep making their computers,the new lady CEO is trying to drop them. I would get a nice laptop an ASUS is what i have. Had a HP desktop for years great system and i have an HP laptop also today with Win7Pro, also a great system. I would sure move to a laptop and a Company that will be around to support you for the next say five years.
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  6.    17 Aug 2015 #6
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 941
    Windows 8.1, Win10Pro

    If you like desktops, then stay with them. Regardless of what the "laptop crowd" says, desktops are far from dead!

    Laptops have one thing in their favour -- mobility. If you travel and want to take your PC with you, then you need a laptop. If you want to use a PC in different rooms of your house, then you need a laptop. But, if you are comfortable with a PC at home, in one room, and feel no need to carry it around with you -- then a desktop is the best choice.

    Also, I know from experience that eyesight gets worse over time, so larger screens offer the ability to enlarge the on-screen text and graphics to make them easier to see. Unless you buy a very large screen laptop, your desktop screen is going to be bigger.

    One more thing, if you buy a Win10 laptop, it's likely to be touch screen -- and unless that's something you really like, you'll find it cumbersome to use. Touchscreens on smart phones and smaller tablets are a necessity, but on a laptop, not so much so, and on a desktop -- a pain! So, if you're thinking about a new laptop, try out the touchscreen in a store for a while and see if you like that approach.
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  7.    17 Aug 2015 #7

    From OP:


    Hi all,

    Just a quick thanks to everyone for helping me out, and taking the time to do so.
    Appreciate it.

    Will probably have some more (dumb) questions later.
    Hard knowing what the wisest choice probably is.
    I realize that all of these outfits can be considered as nothing but "re-packagers," but I guess the component quality they pick is most important. and very variable.

    Really want it to last a few years without having to replace the HD or video board, like I have had to in my 3-1/2 yr old HP Desktop.

    Regards,
    Bob

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
    If you like desktops, then stay with them. Regardless of what the "laptop crowd" says, desktops are far from dead!

    Laptops have one thing in their favour -- mobility. If you travel and want to take your PC with you, then you need a laptop. If you want to use a PC in different rooms of your house, then you need a laptop. But, if you are comfortable with a PC at home, in one room, and feel no need to carry it around with you -- then a desktop is the best choice.

    Also, I know from experience that eyesight gets worse over time, so larger screens offer the ability to enlarge the on-screen text and graphics to make them easier to see. Unless you buy a very large screen laptop, your desktop screen is going to be bigger.

    One more thing, if you buy a Win10 laptop, it's likely to be touch screen -- and unless that's something you really like, you'll find it cumbersome to use. Touchscreens on smart phones and smaller tablets are a necessity, but on a laptop, not so much so, and on a desktop -- a pain! So, if you're thinking about a new laptop, try out the touchscreen in a store for a while and see if you like that approach.
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  8.    17 Aug 2015 #8
    Join Date : Mar 2014
    Cape Breton Nova Scotia ,Canada
    Posts : 3,546
    insider build 10586.3 win10 pro 64

    I say stick with desktop too, we have never had a 4 year old desktop die on us ,and there is 2 in limited use here that are over 6 years old 'a Dell and Compaq
    but we had 2- 4 year old laptops that bit the dust ,a Sony and Toshiba
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  9.    17 Aug 2015 #9
    Join Date : Apr 2015
    California
    Posts : 362
    Windows 10 Pro x64

    I'm also a sr. citizen. When it comes to laptops I can say this. About 7 years ago, 5 family members all owned HP laptops, all different models. Every one of those laptops had a different hardware issue and quit working within a couple of years, of course out of warranty.

    After that, we all bought Dell laptops and not one has failed. Some of us still have the 5 year old Dell laptops, working just fine. I wouldn't buy any HP hardware ever again.
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  10.    17 Aug 2015 #10
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Central Florida
    Posts : 131
    Windows 10

    I agree with what's being said concerning a laptop vrs a desktop. I have both and in almost every way I prefer my desktop. For light browsing or checking email a laptop or a tablet is fine but for any serious work I go to my desktop. My screen size just works better for my older eyes. If you've looked thru these forums I think you'll find that far more issues have occurred with laptops than with desktops. The reason is that any two are not necessarily the same. They may have the same specs but the brands for the internal components may be completely different and they have to configure their drivers a bit differently for them. Additionally, it's a lot easier to replace or upgrade parts of a desktop than it is a laptop.

    Having said all that, you might want to consider going to a local computer store. Not a big box store that just carries the "brands". I can't tell where you're from, but most towns of any size with usually have several near by. I think you'll find that they will be able to custom assemble one for you that has exactly what you need for at least as good a price as the name brands. That also gives you a resource for help or repair if you need it without having to box it up and send it off to god know where.

    Harpet's recommendations sounds good.:
    Processor: I3 is minimal, I5 would be better
    Memory: 4GB minimal, 6GB better
    Hard drive: preferably an SSD 256 GB (Solid state) for Windows etc en a 2 - 3GB normal drive for your data.
    Screen: HD 1920 x 1080 22inch diagonal
    Get them to install Windows 10 on it and you'll be good to go.

    Just a little more for you to think about. Good luck.
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