Two questions about a recent Mini PC purchase (speed & heat)

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    Two questions about a recent Mini PC purchase (speed & heat)


    Greetings,

    Anyone who knows me knows I have a fetish for Mini PCs. You can build your blinky fanny gamey tower, and you can have the best laptop known to man --- but me -- I love me Mini PCs.

    I've had two. A desktop one (Asus VivoMini) and a micro Beelink AP42 Mini PC by the TV. The latter had 4GBs RAM, 64 EMC storage, and a slow Pentium Apollo Lake N4200.

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    It's main job was streaming stuff -- but shopping and opening more than one app at a time? Strained. But hey -- it was like $200 three years ago. It did its job and paid for itself over the years. I'm old enough now that I can actually hear the clock ticking and so it's replacement would have to be SIGNIFICANTLY faster. Enter the UM300 Minisforum.



    8GBs RAM, 128 SSD, AMD Ryzen 3 3300. This is like a kitten being replaced by a cougar. Now I could actually sit in front of the TV and Zillow and fly through homes -- none of which I can buy. lol

    So I promised TWO QUESTIONS.

    1. I also own a year old Ryzen 5 3500 Lenovo laptop. Just for spits and giggles I ran an SFC speed contest between the Ryzens. It's my understanding the 3 is akin to an i3 Intel and the 5 an i5. The Mini PC left the laptop in the dust --

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    The Mini PC is connected to a TV. When it finished the laptop was still at 68%. Not even close! Question: do you believe this accurately reflects speed? Or do you believe a year old laptop may have different... I don't know... sfc needs?

    2. There's a slight design flaw in the unit I'm seeking your opinion if it's actually a major flaw. The SSD was positioned poorly and can get up to 70 degrees Celsius when things get hot. Which won't be often, mind you, but still. Would you keep it or return it yesterday?

    TIA
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    1. The speed may be good but the "proof of the puddin" is in processing programs one wants to use.

    2. 70°C is equal to 158°F, pretty hot and something I would not want to touch. Too much heat can damage other things and a problem would be in trying to increase the cooling of parts. Even Notebooks/Laptops can have the problem, not much room for airflow. If parts are affected by heating then by extension so is the performance.
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    @The Pool Man



    Here ya go... Linus saves the day, yet again...



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    Ghot said:
    Here ya go... Linus saves the day, yet again...
    lol

    Are you recommending this as an alternative Mini PC, or does he suggest a fix somewhere within?
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    The Pool Man said:
    lol

    Are you recommending this as an alternative Mini PC, or does he suggest a fix somewhere within?


    Not as a fix... more like a substitute. That thing he built has a Ryzen 3700X and a RTX 1660 in it.
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    Ghot said:
    Not as a fix... more like a substitute. That thing he built has a Ryzen 3700X and a RTX 1660 in it.
    lol... I bet it's going to be over $359... which for a TV PC... is more my pricepoint. :)

    I recently watched Linux going GAGA over the Threadripper. He was in deep shock and awe.
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    The Pool Man said:
    lol... I bet it's going to be over $359... which for a TV PC... is more my pricepoint. :)

    I recently watched Linux going GAGA over the Threadripper. He was in deep shock and awe.


    Yeah, probably. Just the 3700X is $300.


    But... if you want to spend even more money...









    /edit
    I'm sure if I looked around I could find Linus does NUCs, but I'll leave that for you.
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    @The Pool Man

    Apparently Linus does NUCs too... lots of Amazon links to Intel NUCs. Not cheap though.

    Unboxing the smallest GAMING PC you can buy! - Intel Ghost Canyon NUC - YouTube












    NUCs on Amazon, sorted by price, lowest to highest...

    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=intel+gho...price-asc-rank
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    I don’t understand why you think an sfc scan time would be a useful indicator- the two pcs may have quite different os setups and installed programs. You need to run a cpu benchmark program.
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    The Pool Man said:
    lol

    Are you recommending this as an alternative Mini PC, or does he suggest a fix somewhere within?



    70C for the SSD is a bit high, but not that bad. Especially considering the teeny form factor.

    My comp is in a full tower, loads of great fans, sitting very near to a 12,500 BTU A/C and my motherboard chipset, for example, idles at 53C.
    I don't have an NVMe SSD to compare, so I used the chipset.

    NVMe SSDs run hot in the best of scenarios, so sticking one in a mini PC, you will have to expect, those kinds of temps.
    Just on Ten Forums, I've seen a lot of NVMe SSDs hovering around 50C in mid tower setups.
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