OK i know this might not go down well but...

Mikey89 · 27 Aug 2020

Hello

Yesterday i decided to let W10 go ahead and download feature update 2004 and be done with it already because it was appearing as "pending" in Windows Update.

Now before this i knew it might take some time but i never imagined it would take this long.

It took 3 HOURS for me. And yes i'm using an HDD not an SSD but how in the hell could MS push out an update that takes 3 HOURS to finish and i didn't even knew if after this if W10 will need to reinstall drivers and other stuff. Fortunetly it didn't need to do that. But my frustration is with MS and the BIG update.

So i'm asking : WHY ?

Just why... why did hey have to put out such a massive update so that the regular user has to sit around and do nothing for 3 hours and then waste another hour (4 hours in total) just to figure out if all his SHIT is as it should be.

And no, i didn't make this topic just to express my anger with this.

I also wanted to ask how much it took for other users ?

Berton · 27 Aug 2020

I have to say that Version 2004 is an Upgrade over previous Versions, not a Build, and does take longer as it usually replaces more files and makes more adjustments. The Builds are not as large, think of them more along the lines of the old Service Packs we used to have to install, just modifying what is already in place. Usually the Build will not mess with many customizations but the Version Upgrade will set Users' Registry modifications back to default.

In comparing speed, I have used the Bootable USB created by the MCT process to install newer Version Upgrade and that is faster than downloading/installing from the Internet, bypasses variables that can slow down any streaming installs.

FreeBooter · 27 Aug 2020

How long did took to download the update?

Mikey89 · 27 Aug 2020

Berton said:

I have to say that Version 2004 is an Upgrade over previous Versions, not a Build, and does take longer as it usually replaces more files and makes more adjustments. The Builds are not as large, think of them more along the lines of the old Service Packs we used to have to install, just modifying what is already in place. Usually the Build will not mess with many customizations but the Version Upgrade will set Users' Registry modifications back to default.

In comparing speed, I have used the Bootable USB created by the MCT process to install newer Version Upgrade and that is faster than downloading/installing from the Internet, bypasses variables that can slow down any streaming installs.

Even the SP's back in the day didn't take 3 damn hours to install. I remember it didn't took nowhere near as much. As for speed i don't know if anything has improved or not especially when it comes to gaming. Gaming isn't too much affected by OS version.

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FreeBooter said:

How long did took to download the update?

I'm not sure how long for the download. But it took 2 hours for it to prepare, download and install and AFTER booting it took another 1 hour to configure windows and finish the install. Also wasted another 1 hour myself separately to check if everything is as should. Basically wasted 4 hours with this yesterday.

Unfortunetly the update messed with my audio setup and made it from 5.1 surround to just stereo. Luckily the fix was easy from the realtek device manager and took 1 min or so.

AddRAM · 27 Aug 2020

Did you use Windows Update ? Why ?

You should have downloaded the 2004 Iso file and ran it from within windows. The entire install takes less than an hour.

And don`t forget to unplug the network cable before you start.

There is no reason to install 2004, it`s flawed, you should stay with 1909. 1909 works great, no reason to update to 2004.

Mikey89 · 27 Aug 2020

AddRAM said:

Did you use Windows Update ? Why ?

Download the 2004 Iso file and run it from within windows.

And don`t forget to unplug the network cable before you start.

I did use Windows Update.

Used WU because i figured it's much easier and i can just let W10 do it's thing without having to download the iso and unplug the cable and other crap. It's much easier when all you have to do is click "download" and let it do it's thing and reboot. The problem is i didn't think it would take so long.

And no i'm not going to download now the 2004 iso just so i can re-install it. Why should i if it's already been installed through WU ? Just to waste more time ? WU finally finished yesterday even if took that much time but there is certainly no point in "re-installing".

Also i was using 1903 but WU had it on "pending" yesterday and was like "dude u gotta install 2004 i'm ready let's do it". Figured might as well get this shit done already.

AddRAM · 27 Aug 2020

No one said anything about re installing, it`s just faster to update using the Iso, much faster. Everything is there, you don`t to do any waiting.

Oh you will be re installing, 2004 is flawed.

If the way you did it was better, than you wouldn`t be here making a thread about how long it took you.

But I`m just a stupid Computer Technician, and none of us here know anything about updating windows to the next version

Berton · 27 Aug 2020

AddRAM said:

No one said anything about re installing, it`s just faster to update using the Iso, much faster. Everything is there, you don`t to do any waiting.

Oh you will be re installing, 2004 is flawed.

If the way you did it was better, than you wouldn`t be here making a thread about how long it took you.

But I`m just a stupid Computer Technician, and none of us here no nothing about installing windows

Me, too. I have to keep resources available as I never know what will be needed until getting to a client's computer and they don't like to pay for my time just keeping an eye on the progress of things, don't really understand that things happen or don't happen in a hurry.

I haven't had any problems with Version 2004 since starting the installs a couple weeks ago but did take a computer out of service to rehook a Version 1909 to work with solving a client's problem.

f14tomcat · 27 Aug 2020

Just a few basic realities....

You did use WU, which will by it's nature be slower and more cumbersome. It has to do all the "get the ISO crap together" stuff and the install, so it's a somewhat different process up front. The ISO bypasses the need for all that, and jumps right into the meat of the install. Click Setup, walk away, come back to a desktop.

You did use an HDD, that by it's nature will be considerably slower. No way around that. It is what it is.

Other unknown factors, such as possible fragmentation of the HDD, large user program libraries, space available, CPU speed, and a bunch of other minor things, all contribute to the overall time.

Based on all that, 3 hours may, may, not be unreasonable.

Just IMHO.

Mikey89 · 27 Aug 2020

f14tomcat said:

Just a few basic realities....

You did use WU, which will by it's nature be slower and more cumbersome. It has to do all the "get the ISO crap together" stuff and the install, so it's a somewhat different process up front. The ISO bypasses the need for all that, and jumps right into the meat of the install. Click Setup, walk away, come back to a desktop.

You did use an HDD, that by it's nature will be considerably slower. No way around that. It is what it is.

Other unknown factors, such as possible fragmentation of the HDD, large user program libraries, space available, CPU speed, and a bunch of other minor things, all contribute to the overall time.

Based on all that, 3 hours may, may, not be unreasonable.

Just IMHO.

Hey Tomcat, thanks for the info on that. Yes i know WU tends to be a bit slower, but 2004 in comparison to 1903 or 1909 take way more that's what i was trying to say. And yes i'm using an HDD not an SSD. I just find it weird that while 1903 and 1909 took about 1 hour, 1909 only a few minutes from what i remember that 2004 took this much.

I did have like 250GB free on the C drive so space wasn't the problem... as for CPU and other hardware, they're listed in the "My Computer" section of profile.