Windows not passing its View settings to apps ?

I like my Windows folderview as "details", without any Grouping or Panels. I occasionally flick the sort order between columns.

A few weeks ago, I did some experimentation with alternative view settings (some including with Grouping), but I didn't like them and set them back to how they were before.

Since then, every time I do a "File>Open" or a "File>Save As" from inside numerous desktop apps, the app's view into the Windows folder has "Grouping" enabled. Which I hate.

The apps let you change the view of the Windows folder to some extent (e.g. small/medium-sized icons); and Enable/Disable the Navigation/Preview panes, but they don't have an option to "Group by" (or not).

Apps where this problem happens include :
Waterfox-classic browser 2020.08
Firefox 79
Edge 84.0.552.61
Audacity 2.4.2
Libreoffice 6.4.6.2

However, A few other apps don't do this unwanted Grouping
Photoshop CS9
MS Office 2013 Professional Plus
Opera browser v70

I guess that the second set suggests that it isn't a Windows problem, but I'm not sure. Presumably, Windows hands its view settings over to apps at some point for use in their Open/Save dialogs.

Is there anything I can do to get rid of the Grouping from inside the app dialogs? In the raw-OS, Grouping is turned-off AOK.

TIA

p.s. If it is not clear what I mean by Grouping, go to a Windows explorer window and in the menus, select "View>Group by" then select one of the listed items (size, date, etc). Look at the resulting window and how the files are grouped into blocks; afterwards, to undo it, select "View>Group by>(None)". (You might need to have the window maximimised to be able to see the "Group by" option).


Windows10 Home, v2004, build 19041.450

Yup, that's got it. Thanks :)