Windows 10 2004 finally here, but...

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  1. Posts : 247
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 bits
       #1

    Windows 10 2004 finally here, but...


    Last Friday I finally could update to 2004, and it was the NVIDIA driver incompatibility that was causing the delay.

    But now my PC is getting slow even with the most basic tasks, like opening File Explorer.

    When I opened the programs I use daily running together (like Chrome, Maxthon, IrfanView, Foxit Reader) I got some freezing, "not responding" warnings. etc.

    Is there anything I need to do after installing the 2004 update that can fix that? TIA.

    Windows 10 Pro 2004 19041.450
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  2. Posts : 43,005
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    Just wondering.. how much free space do you now have on C: ?

    Please post a screenshot of your task manager when your system seems slow organising any columns of interest high to low by clicking on the relevant column header thus:
    Windows 10 2004 finally here, but...-screenshot-copy1.png
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  3. Posts : 8,111
    windows 10
       #3

    Last Tuesday the update fix a lot of know problems so worth a shot
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  4. Posts : 247
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 bits
    Thread Starter
       #4

    dalchina said:
    Just wondering.. how much free space do you now have on C: ?
    Windows 10 2004 finally here, but...-c_hdd_sp.png

    When the system was slow I didn't try to open the Task Manager because my experience is that it makes things worse, for it most of times freezes the whole thing, so I have to wait for Windows to get things back working.

    But when it happens again I'll try it and upload a screenshot.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Since the day of my first post here, the constant freezes I reported never happened again, but it's still slow to open File Explorer and some programs some time after boot.

    While I was writing this first paragraph, I clicked on the Explorer taskbar icon to open it, and it took a while; Chrome showed the "not responding" warning. I also launched the Task Manager, which opened several minutes later. Check the screenshot below.

    Windows 10 2004 finally here, but...-tskmngr1.png

    And there is another issue I think is worth noting. After boot, all those initial screens (boot, lock, etc.), the screen turns black for a long time, and it takes near seven minutes for the desktop to appear. Seven minutes is too long!

    I ran Autoruns and found some stuff I guess can make boot slower, but I'm not sure.

    PS.: my system has 12 GB of RAM.
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  5. Posts : 43,005
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #5

    Hi, what would be useful would be a screenshot of your task manager when something is happening slowly. I.e. have it open ready, then when you experience the symptom, and use PrtSc or a screenshot capture program that just needs a hot key to capture the screen, paste the capture into Paint and edit if you like and post that.

    The screenshot shows your system when it's pretty quiet.
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  6. Posts : 247
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 bits
    Thread Starter
       #6

    dalchina said:
    Hi, what would be useful would be a screenshot of your task manager when something is happening slowly. I.e. have it open ready, then when you experience the symptom, and use PrtSc or a screenshot capture program that just needs a hot key to capture the screen, paste the capture into Paint and edit if you like and post that.
    The screenshot shows your system when it's pretty quiet.
    Task Manager took minutes to load, so I guess it only loaded after things became "quiet". And if I open Task Manager beforehand, it might as well make things slow. As I noted before, it usually makes things worse, mostly by freezing everything. Precisely because I run it when I need to check what is making things slow or freeze.

    When you talk about screenshots, you mean you can't see the ones I sent? I use PrtScn or Alt+PrtScn, then IrfanView to edit, then upload them here.
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  7. Posts : 43,005
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #7

    I can see the screenshots, what we need is information on what your system is doing when it behaves slowly.

    If not the task manager, what do you propose?

    Besides doing the above, how does your system behave
    a. After a clean boot (Google or see tutorial if unsure how)
    b. In Safe Mode

    Also test the disk transfer rate
    (yes, as shown by the task manager, performance tab).

    Download, install and run HD Tune v2.55 from Sotfpedia.com (free) - Health and Error scan tabs.

    If ok, run
    chkdsk c: /scan
    from and admin command prompt and report the summary result.
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  8. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       #8

    I would check your hard drive. Some others here are more experienced with that than I am. I think Hard Disk Sentinel is one of the recommended programs:
    Hard Disk Sentinel - HDD health and temperature monitoring
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  9. Posts : 247
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 bits
    Thread Starter
       #9

    dalchina said:
    I can see the screenshots, what we need is information on what your system is doing when it behaves slowly.
    If not the task manager, what do you propose?
    Besides doing the above, how does your system behave
    a. After a clean boot (Google or see tutorial if unsure how)
    b. In Safe Mode
    Also test the disk transfer rate
    (yes, as shown by the task manager, performance tab).
    Right after boot, things are slow and get normal after some time. I usually open Chrome first.

    I'll give it a few more days and then try your new suggestions (clean boot and safe mode).

    As to what I would propose instead of Task Manager, I thought of Autoruns, Process Explorer, and the like.

    Is there something in Windows itself I can check to see why it takes so long to boot and these other issues? Some sort of log files, maybe?
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  10. Posts : 43,005
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #10

    I would start by checking your disk - absolute basics- see previous 2 posts.

    Autoruns does not show performance or processes- it lets you disable startups. Start with a clean boot first and Safe Mode. Autoruns heads towards being more technical.

    Boot time analysis: there's a technically complex tool that provides detailed graphical representation - Windows Performance Analyser/Recorder - free from MS. Not for the first time user.

    You can see some examples if you search tenforums.
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