Has Anyone Worked With Linuxfx Also Known As Windowsfx??

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  1. Posts : 819
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    Lance1 said:
    Run the experiment yourself.
    I did... but a different way.

    1. I tried to install Ubuntu Mate in Virtualbox. Hit the reliable mystery problem I swear Windows 10 intentionally puts there. VBox used to work reliably years ago.

    2. I put Mate on a USB stick. My laptop booted into it but then got a black screen of nada. Twice.

    3. On the same stick I tried Phoenix OS, which is a Chinese Android OS notion. This has the easiest process to both put on a stick (no need for Rufus) and try. It worked okay except it has immediate and obvious bugs.

    Then, as it happens every time I dabble, I remember why I switched from Mac/Linux to PC: Windows 10 works.
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  2. Posts : 11,183
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    Hi folks
    there used to be a similar thing called "Lindows" if I remember correctly from years ago. Didn't end good for "The creator" if memory serves me correct -- apart from all sorts of "Copy right issues" and intellectual copy right considerations

    If you want to use Linux there's loads of distros out there --proper stable ones with backing of big organisations such as Red Hat (now part of IBM) etc -- and with the choice of Window Managers you can almost if you want to make it look "More Windows than Windows".

    For people who want to try any flavour of Linux --simply either get a "Live Distro" --this boots from a USB without changing your HDD's etc -- or IMO better just install these as VirtualMachines -- you can use Virtual Box or VMWare player - both free on any version of Windows - or if you have PRO etc you can run them under HYPER-V.

    @The Pool Man

    I've never had serious problems with any version of Linux / or creating live distros -- in fact I have lost count of the number of times I've used a Linux live distro booted from a USB stick to fix odd Windows problems !!! -- I generally use Linux on my main machine with Windows as a VM for running things like Office (EXCEL IMO is still far superior to any iof the "Office clones" out there) and things like Photoshop etc.

    One thing IMO that lets Windows down hideously is Networking -- however this thread isn't Linux Vs Windows --both have their places -- just know when to use which !!!! --But these days Linux isn't the beast it once was only used by geeky nerds -- much more mainstream and reliable --most people could use it straight out of the box if they choose a decent distro.

    Cheers
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    jimbo45 said:
    @The Pool Man

    I've never had serious problems with any version of Linux / or creating live distros -- in fact I have lost count of the number of times I've used a Linux live distro booted from a USB stick to fix odd Windows problems !!! -- I generally use Linux on my main machine with Windows as a VM for running things like Office (EXCEL IMO is still far superior to any iof the "Office clones" out there) and things like Photoshop etc.
    You said you haven't had serious problems. I'm saying that most newbies to Linux will find VirtualBox as frustrating as booting a live distro from a USB stick. And most of it is Microsoft's fault.

    Life used to be beautiful a few years ago with Legacy boot-options. Then somebody decided to 'fix' the bios and all of a sudden VBox and Live Distros are very hard to pull off. Not to you, maybe, but the average user. I don't believe this was an accident. Making it harder to try Linux.

    By the by -- Phoenix OS had a feature EVERY major Linux should: it offered to do the Rufus work by itself. When you click the Phoenix installer, one of the options is to make live USB distro. That saves a lot of time for the novice. But Linux doesn't do this because Linux DELIGHTS in complexity. "Just download this... just install it... just set it up this way... just just just -- ".

    Every major distro these days should do a quick scan and tell you if the 'live trial' or 'install' will even work before you start. It should tell you if the BIOS is set right, if Hyper V is on, etcetera.

    Most PC users I know get frightened at the mere mention of an SFC or a full Defender scan. If they are to be persuaded towards a Linux (to give new life to an old laptop) it has to work flawlessly the first try. Again the Phoenix people have the right idea... but their problem is that the actual code is still buggy.

    Imagine an Ubuntu Mate that easily went on a USB stick... checked everything before even trying... installed in a partition drive all by itself... required no bios baloney, no grub salami -- it just worked -- and if you didn't like it... it would easily uninstall and return the USB stick to normal... without having to reclaim any partitions on the stick.

    It's not easy yet. It's nowhere near it. Yet.
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  4. Posts : 13,934
    Windows 10 Pro X64 21H1 19043.1503
       #14

    I just installed LinuxFX in a Hyper-V VM. It's okay but pretty slow. Everything seems to work, including network.

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    Not something I'd care to use much since it's still Linux but overall not bad for a Windows-like version of Linux.
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  5. Posts : 11,183
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
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    Ztruker said:
    I just installed LinuxFX in a Hyper-V VM. It's okay but pretty slow. Everything seems to work, including network.

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    Not something I'd care to use much since it's still Linux but overall not bad for a Windows-like version of Linux.
    Hi there
    If you want Windows why bother to "Replicate it" !!!! --Nothing wrong with "The real thing" if you like it -- also I suspect that some of those logos e.g the Windows like icon might be subject to some sort of trade Marking via Microsoft -- so expect yet anothers lawyers fest some time -- but I don't suppose even the USA or the EU would have much success and enforcing any judgements in China or Russia !!

    To make it really work you'd need also to run something like WINE seamlessly so you could get 100% native Windows applications such as Office to run on it --- time and money spent on that for developers would make it cheaper just to buy Windows in the first place!!!!

    BTW using "Paravirtualised I/O" on Virtual machines running on HYPER-V. VBOX, VMWare etc does significantly degrade performance -- Disk I/O is one of the biggest performance bottlenecks in Virtual machines --If you can pass through the hardware directly to the VM and use the OS drivers itself (e.g Native I/O as RAW disks) then you'll improve performance no end -- as well as a graphics port --- If you want to go bonkers try passing through a SAS controller -- you can then get a VM to perform around 98.7% of Native speed !!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. Posts : 12,430
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    Reading through all this affirms my choice to run a version of Linux on separate hardware, a really decent Dell Inspiron 680 Desktop. I'm not having to do it much with it now but I like the installed version of GPARTED that comes with some versions of Linux, now running Linux Mint 20 on it. I have a drive dock connected and GPARTED can do a number of different formats, really good with partitioning drives that Windows can't handle [FAT32 limits] and re-partitioning USB Thumb drives which usually come as FAT32, much quicker than the useful GPARTED LiveCD [which is run on a 'lite' version of Linux]. But then the computer is something I rehabbed rather than just throw in the landfill, no cost in it.

    I don't have clients using Linux [small community] but there just comes a time that Windows can't easily do what is needed, a handy tool to have available.
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  7. Posts : 13,934
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    You Linux bigots miss the point. I do it for fun. Don't give a rat's butt about Linux or using linux, I like Windows. I installed LinuxFX because I wanted to see what it looked like and how it performed and how it compared to Windows, from a Windows point of viw.

    Looks - acceptable
    Performance - sucks, but this is a VM problem. Would probably run very well on real hardware.
    Comparison - okay

    A person familiar with Windows could use this as long as they didn't have to get into the file system.

    Edit: That seemed a little harsh, sorry. Just trying to get the point across.
    Last edited by Ztruker; 21 Jul 2020 at 21:24.
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  8. Posts : 807
    Windows 10 Professional x64 21H2
    Thread Starter
       #18

    I know I mentioned that I used Mint, but that was an older version, I don't remember which but it was a few years back. So as LinuxFX didn't work out for me I,m still looking for a Linux distro that is "Very Windows Friendly" And I think I found it in "Mint 20 Ulyana". I just downloaded the ISO and am going to test it out in VMWare. Take a look at it here but I'm sure you're familiar with it. Download Linux Mint 20 Ulyana If it works out I'll install it on one of my other more robust systems, "Not The Optiplex 755" I'm going to run in Cinnamon. Ztruker, run this one and let us know what you think.
    "You Linux bigots miss the point. I do it for fun."
    And so you should! Like most of us, Windows users do. But I am looking for an out. Keep testing that is the secret. I'll post what I think about this distro down the road. But in the meantime take a look at this video on this distro. Stay tuned.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I started the install before my post, Sorry! Impatient. I'm running the update manager now... Ya... What! As always the wife is calling me upstairs. So I'll let this run and check it in the morning. So much for the man cave...
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  9. Posts : 13,934
    Windows 10 Pro X64 21H1 19043.1503
       #19

    Linux Mint anything is still Linux, not a Windows look/feel alike. Not interested in running it.

    I worked with Linux full time for 7+ years when I was employed by IBM, up until I retired. Red Hat was king then.

    I didn't like it then and don't like it now. I find Windows much more fun to play with. It's a personal preference thing.
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  10. Posts : 807
    Windows 10 Professional x64 21H2
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    Ztruker said:
    Linux Mint anything is still Linux, not a Windows look/feel alike. Not interested in running it.

    I worked with Linux full time for 7+ years when I was employed by IBM, up until I retired. Red Hat was king then.

    I didn't like it then and don't like it now. I find Windows much more fun to play with. It's a personal preference thing.
    I have always been a Windows guy and understand what your saying. I'm only 62 so I have most likely not been around as long as you and not have seen what you have seen But! Could you elaborate on your experience with the Linux distros you have worked with? Have you worked with Linux Mint 20 Ulyana and what it is that you find you don't like about it?


    By the way, you need a Signature.. I'll make you one if you like. How do you want it to look?
    Last edited by Lance1; 21 Jul 2020 at 22:34.
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