Question about Shift & Windows key behavior

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  1. Posts : 17
    Windows 10
       #1

    Question about Shift & Windows key behavior


    Hello,

    I'm having a problem with Shift & Windows key.

    Whenever I press them both, a Windows Start menu appears, which wouldn't matter, but I use an AHK-based program, where a lot of my key combinations are pretty saturated, to assigned macros.

    Where for example a macro assigned to 'Shift + Win + Q', opens up the Start menu whenever I press it, and badly messes up the macro command, always requiring me to do weird workarounds and things of such nature, in order to for example 'click off' the Start menu first, before getting to the actual command, slowing it down considerably, as a result

    When I made a thread about it, on the program's respective forum, a moderator/staff replied to me, that he experiences no such issue, as in 'Shift + Win', not opening the Start Menu in his case... so this leads me to wonder about, whether I'm the only one experiencing such behavior, or are other users experiencing it also?

    My Windows version:
    • Windows 10 Windows 8, 64-bit, Release 1903, Build 18362.778

    Kind regards,
    David
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  2. Posts : 35,400
    Win 10 Pro (21H2) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #2

    I assume you're not able to reassign SHIFT Win key with AHK as you wish.

    If so, you might consider
    3 Ways to Disable Windows Key Shortcuts (Hotkeys) in Windows 10 | Password Recovery

    or perhaps use, say SHIFT ALT ...
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  3. Posts : 17
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #3

    dalchina said:
    I assume you're not able to reassign SHIFT Win key with AHK as you wish.

    If so, you might consider
    3 Ways to Disable Windows Key Shortcuts (Hotkeys) in Windows 10 | Password Recovery

    or perhaps use, say SHIFT ALT ...
    I mean I am able to for example get, 'Shift + Win + Q' to work just fine, it's just that it always opens up the Windows Start menu, along with it, which oftentimes 'breaks' the functionality of the macro, etc.

    Most of my manually accessible shortcut combinations are completely saturated, so I'm kinda forced to use some that are 'Shift + Win' also.

    But yeah, just to confirm, does the pressing of 'Shift + Win' alone, always open the Start menu on all Windows 10 versions? If that is so, then I can provide the evidence to the staff of the program's forum, which could help in improving the program in future.

    I've tried some of the same options within your link, that this link provides, a good while in the past:
    How to Disable the Built-In “Windows Key” Shortcuts

    Though seemingly, to no avail. As it seems that the options just completely disabled the Windows key outright, which is not what I'm looking for.

    I'm however gonna try again and report in the near future, using your link, just to be 100% sure, of my prior findings
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  4. Posts : 35,400
    Win 10 Pro (21H2) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #4

    I mean I am able to for example get, 'Shift + Win + Q' to work just fine, it's just that it always opens up the Windows Start menu, along with it,
    You could define Shift Win as null in an AHK script
    +#::

    which would leave you free to use
    Shiift Win +
    - where + is any key you like-
    without inadvertently launching the Start menu.

    That's what I was thinking when I said
    I assume you're not able to reassign SHIFT Win key with AHK as you wish.
    For reference:
    Keyboard Shortcuts in Windows 10
    Last edited by dalchina; 30 Jun 2020 at 09:01.
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  5. Posts : 17
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #5

    dalchina said:
    Shift Win opens the Start menu as you know. That is a standard Win 10 hotkey.

    You could define Shift Win as null in an AHK script
    +#::

    which would leave you free to use
    Shiift Win +
    - where + is any key you like-
    without inadvertently launching the Start menu.

    That's what I was thinking when I said


    For reference:
    Keyboard Shortcuts in Windows 10
    Gotcha, thanks!

    Could it perhaps be possible for you to point me in the right direction, in regards to the way one would implement this in AHK?

    I've tried adding
    Code:
    +#::
    Return
    Then restarting the script, but it seems like this isn't exactly the way to go
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  6. Posts : 35,400
    Win 10 Pro (21H2) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #6

    Took a while, but this seems to work:

    Lwin & Shift::Return
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  7. Posts : 17
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #7

    dalchina said:
    Took a while, but this seems to work:

    Lwin & Shift::Return
    Thanks for taking the time!

    Added it to my script and reloaded:
    Question about Shift & Windows key behavior-2020-06-29-22_33_16-c__users_leon_dropbox_autohotkey-script.ahk-notepad-.jpg
    However, the Start menu still opens, when I press 'Shift + Win'...
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  8. Posts : 35,400
    Win 10 Pro (21H2) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #8

    Mine doesn't... try running just this, then try Shift + Win.

    That stops my Win 10 start menu being launched. Perhaps you have other things running that override that or conflict with it.

    After that, I have no more ideas, and you'll need to find other key combinations to use.

    E.g. Try being specific as to left and right for example...
    LControl (or LCtrl) Left Control. Corresponds to the <^ hotkey prefix.
    RControl (or RCtrl) Right Control. Corresponds to the >^ hotkey prefix.
    LShift Left Shift. Corresponds to the <+ hotkey prefix.
    RShift Right Shift. Corresponds to the >+ hotkey prefix.
    LAlt Left Alt. Corresponds to the <! hotkey prefix.
    RAlt

    Reallocate the Windows default to left, and use the right for yours, say.
    Question about Shift &amp; Windows key behavior Attached Files
    Last edited by dalchina; 30 Jun 2020 at 02:49.
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  9. NMI
    Posts : 953
    Windows 10 Pro, Version 20H2
       #9

    dalchina said:
    Shift Win opens the Start menu as you know.
    It doesn't for me.


    dalchina said:
    That is a standard Win 10 hotkey.
    I don't think it is.


    dalchina said:
    There's no Shift+WIN mentioned there.
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  10. Posts : 35,400
    Win 10 Pro (21H2) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #10

    Thank you for your post. I realise I've made an assumption from habit.

    I use Open shell, and it's that that can assign SHIFT + Win as a hotkey to open the start menu.
    Question about Shift &amp; Windows key behavior-1.png

    So @Dave290 is it actually the Win key itself that you're catching that opens the Start Menu? Or are you also using Open Shell?
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