v.2004 update removes ability to turn off "Modern Standby"

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    How to turn off network on standby, at least...


    I've found a Reddit thread explaining Modern Standby, and how you can switch your system to the "Network disconnected" version, if your system is one that stays network-connected:

    On Windows 10 versions before 2004, you were able to enable the Network disconnected mode while sleeping on battery right from the Settings app, under the suspension options. Unfortunately, this setting has been removed starting from version 2004... On previous versions of Windows there also was the famous CsEnabled registry key, for forcing the old non-Modern standby on Modern standby enabled devices. That key has been removed entirely as well... You have to manually force it via GPO or Regedit, depending on your Windows 10 license...
    How to enable Network disconnected mode during Modern Standby
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    I think Ten Forums should be renamed Give Me Reasons Why I Should Stick With 1809.
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    Ander said:
    I've found a Reddit thread explaining Modern Standby, and how you can switch your system to the "Network disconnected" version, if your system is one that stays network-connected:

    How to enable Network disconnected mode during Modern Standby
    In addition:

    How to Check if Connected or Disconnected Modern Standby in Windows 10

    Enable or Disable Network Connectivity in Modern Standby in Windows 10
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    Great. I'm glad we could connect about this, soda speak.
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    @Ander Yes, you cant disable modern standby anymore in 2004 on devices, which """suport""" modern standby. This is intended by MS.

    Switching to "disconnected modern standby" doesnt help anything for the drain and failure of 99.9% problems with modern standby.

    If you want to get S3 sleep back on 2004, you need to do this:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/commen...abling_modern/
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    gorgor said:
    @Ander Yes, you cant disable modern standby anymore in 2004 on devices, which """suport""" modern standby. This is intended by MS...
    Yep! After all, why should we be allowed to decide how we want to use our own computers? If MS wants them to act like smartphones, they're going to act like smartphones.

    gorgor said:
    Switching to "disconnected modern standby" doesnt help anything for the drain and failure of 99.9% problems with modern standby.
    Staying online takes power, so I assume not staying online would save that much battery. And people wouldn't be leaving their systems online, sending data back and forth, when they thought they'd essentially turned them off. Those seem like pretty good reasons to have a choice, don't they?

    gorgor said:
    If you want to get S3 sleep back on 2004, you need to do this:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/commen...abling_modern/
    Unfortunately, it requires downloading a 3rd-party system patch that runs each time you boot... I think I'd rather keep disconnecting my USB devices.

    BTW, I've now found this discussion of the issue on Microsoft Technet. (The OP was even using the same Dell laptop I am.) It's the first I've heard of the solution suggested at the end:

    Go into windows's registry...
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\ModernSleep
    ...you'll find a Key 'EnableAction', Delete it and all other keys.
    "Delete it and all other keys"? What could that possibly mean? (Maybe they meant "values"?)
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  7. Posts : 194
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    @Ander No. the issue with modern standby isnt the "connected" one but that it doesnt work and fails randomly, disconnected flag doesnt change anything for that. No, the ModernSleep registry entry is irrelevant, it has no function in 2004 but also didnt have in 1909 and before.
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    Ander said:
    BTW, I've now found this discussion of the issue on Microsoft Technet. (The OP was even using the same Dell laptop I am.) It's the first I've heard of the solution suggested at the end:
    Go into windows's registry...
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\ModernSleep
    ...you'll find a Key 'EnableAction', Delete it and all other keys.

    "Delete it and all other keys"? What could that possibly mean? (Maybe they meant "values"?)
    Ander,

    1 I thought you said that you did not have a Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\ModernSleep
    2 In my earlier test of deleting that key [posts #4, #5] S0 was disabled but S3 was not enabled. I did not try simply deleting all the values from within that key as that three-year-old TechNet discussion seems to suggest. It sounds useless but stranger things have been known.

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    Try3 said:
    2 In my earlier test of deleting that key [posts #4, #5] S0 was disabled but S3 was not enabled. I did not try simply deleting all the values from within that key as that three-year-old TechNet discussion seems to suggest. It sounds useless but stranger things have been known.
    Ander,

    I tried it anyway and it had no effect.

    As I mentioned on the previous page I do wonder if we could achieve something by setting EnabledActions to a specific level but I have not been able to find any information about its properties.
    I also still wonder about the involvement of the Bios in all this.

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    Try3 said:
    Ander,

    I tried it anyway and it had no effect.

    As I mentioned on the previous page I do wonder if we could achieve something by setting EnabledActions to a specific level but I have not been able to find any information about its properties.
    I also still wonder about the involvement of the Bios in all this.

    Denis
    If youre terribly bored and have too much time, just trial and error EnabledActions through 0 to 127, save reboot, and see if you get S3 working with any value from 0 to127, or even 255, I doubt it though. Might be EnabledActions is internally checky by kernel at boot time and it is not a 0/1 but some value, like 17 or something arbitrary. EnabledActions has no effect though anymore as I see it in 2004. Might be EnabledActions is interpreted as binary flags on/off so 7 would mean something like 3 things are on as in (0111) and each binary decimal stands for some setting switch.
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