May 2020 Feature Upgrade

Hi guys. now that the 2004 May 2020 Feature Update has been released Im reading that there are several issues. One of which is Realtek Bluetooth driver which I dont think is relevant to me. Ive checked in Device Manager and it says under Bluetooth Qualcomm QCA9565 Bluetooth 4.0. The main gripe by forum members seems to be the failure to give correct information on drive optimisation on SSD drives etc. Im not sure how important that is though. Im also seeing a new bug where DISM shows results incorrectly as well...that seems a bit worrying too.
Within the next few days I will be doing a clean install of my Dell PC (deleting all partitions etc).
I dont know whether to download the MCT and create the 2004 May 2020 installation media and clean install it
OR
skip 2004 May 2020 altogether for now and iuse1909 USB installation media that I created a few months ago with the Media Creation Tool and clean install version 1909 instead.
I was chatting to Bree last week and he wisely suggested then that it might be better to clean install version 1909 but it hadnt been released at that point so I thought I would seek some advice again now.
In the past Ive always installed the latest version on release. If I was to install 1909 instead of 2004 would 2004 still be offered through Windows Updates via the usual Optional Feature Update method where you select Download and Install.
If so I could update to 2004 through Windows Updates in a few weeks when bugs have been fixed.
What do you guys think? ...Id appreciate Bree's advice again also if he reads this

dalchina said:

Will 2004 give you features you can't possibly live without?
If so, and you're willing to take the chance, go with 2004.

Hi mate. I dont see anything too exciting in 2004 from what Ive read. It is nice to have the newest version but you dont want to be setting yourself up for a load of problems

dalchina said:

Your safer option would be 1909 - watch for where MS fixing file explorer search has got to there- remember it was fine in 1903, then they 'improved' it.

Im not sure what you're referring too regarding MS fixing file explorer search..Are you saying that is a bug in 1909 or in 2004 or both?...thats something Im not familiar with?

dalchina said:

Of course you can update to 2004 via Windows Update (manual scan, or in due course it could be offered).

1909 offers enough control for you to choose not to receive it.

I have Windows 10 Home version so if I do clean install 1909 I will only install 2004 when it appears sometime later under the Optional section in Windows Updates. All I would need to do when it appears is manually click on the 2004 Feature Update-Download and Install...Have I got that correct?

There are several issues indeed...
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...4#known-issues

sportsfan148 said:

All I would need to do when it appears is manually click on the 2004 Feature Update-Download and Install...Have I got that correct?

Correct. 2004 will not force-install alongside the monthly updates (at least not yet). You must initiate the upgrade.

dalchina said:

Google this text
file explorer search broken in 1909

also
file explorer search in 1909

This was really the big change in 1909.

Discussed at length on tenforums on threads discussing 1909, e.g. the News threads.

Thanks for the info. According to this link the issue was partially fixed. I dont know how Ive missed that because Ive been running 1909 for quite a while now lol
New Windows 1909 and 1903 updates fix File Explorer search, but it still has bugs | ZDNet

sportsfan148 said:

Hi mate. I dont see anything too exciting in 2004 from what Ive read. It is nice to have the newest version but you dont want to be setting yourself up for a load of problems

I like to live dangerously see and test what's new so I have already updated my main 'daily use' machine (System One below) to 2004. It was offered the 2004 update in Windows Update on 'day one' so I clicked on 'download and install now'. The update went smoothly (if a little slow) and apart from one initial glitch with Controlled Folder Access that was easily fixed there are no issues - not that I was expecting any, I run a clone of this machine as a VM and that got upgraded to 2004 a month ago when it was first released to the Insiders Release Preview Ring.

No, there is nothing 'too exciting'. Lot's of nice little improvements, but no compelling reason to get 2004 straight away.

Im not sure what you're referring too regarding MS fixing file explorer search..Are you saying that is a bug in 1909 or in 2004 or both?...thats something Im not familiar with?

For 1909 the search in File Explorer was switched from using its own built in search engine to using the same Windows Search as you find in the taskbar. It was not so much 'broken' as 'different'. Some advanced search functions that were previously available in 1903 were no longer there. If you didn't used File Explorer search much you may not have noticed. Those that did complained a lot. While File Explorer's search has been improved by subsequent cumulative updates, it's still not the same as the old 1903 (and earlier) search.

The integrated windows search is the norm for file explorer now, it works the same in 2004 as in the latest 1909.

I have Windows 10 Home version so if I do clean install 1909 I will only install 2004 when it appears sometime later under the Optional section in Windows Updates. All I would need to do when it appears is manually click on the 2004 Feature Update-Download and Install...Have I got that correct?

Yes. since 1903 was released all feature updates are optional in both Home and Pro. You have to click 'Download and install now' to get them. They will only automatically install when your current Windows is at or near its end of support. That's November 2020 for 1809, December 2020 for 1903 and 1909 is December 2021.

Bree said:

I like to live dangerously see and test what's new so I have already updated my main 'daily use' machine (System One below) to 2004. It was offered the 2004 update in Windows Update on 'day one' so I clicked on 'download and install now'. The update went smoothly (if a little slow) and apart from one initial glitch with Controlled Folder Access that was easily fixed there are no issues - not that I was expecting any, I run a clone of this machine as a VM and that got upgraded to 2004 a month ago when it was first released to the Insiders Release Preview Ring.

No, there is nothing 'too exciting'. Lot's of nice little improvements, but no compelling reason to get 2004 straight away.




For 1909 the search in File Explorer was switched from using its own built in search engine to using the same Windows Search as you find in the taskbar. It was not so much 'broken' as 'different'. Some advanced search functions that were previously available in 1903 were no longer there. If you didn't used File Explorer search much you may not have noticed. Those that did complained a lot. While File Explorer's search has been improved by subsequent cumulative updates, it's still not the same as the old 1903 (and earlier) search.

The integrated windows search is the norm for file explorer now, it works the same in 2004 as in the latest 1909.




Yes. since 1903 was released all feature updates are optional in both Home and Pro. You have to click 'Download and install now' to get them. They will only automatically install when your current Windows is at or near its end of support. That's November 2020 for 1809, December 2020 for 1903 and 1909 is December 2021.

Thanks again Bree for giving me your latest opinion since we spoke last week on 2004 now that it has been officially released..much appreciated

I might be better off clean installing 1909 as you suggested last week and I will update to 2004 through Windows Update in a few weeks after letting MS iron out any bugs.
Since we spoke last week I did a bit of research on here and I dont like the sound of the failure to optimise drives (I have a 128 GB SSD for the System and a seperate Terabyte standard hard disc for everything else). Also there seems to be another issue with DISM reporting incorrectly. Also, Ive checked in Device Manager and it says under Bluetooth- Qualcomm QCA9565 Bluetooth 4.0...so am i correct in thinking that the reported Realtek Bluetooth driver issue definitely doesnt apply to my PC?