Advice regarding new HP Pc for average everyday use.

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  1. Posts : 16,980
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       #11

    You still haven't said what you want to be able to do with the new computer.
    - Without knowing your requirements all else is mere speculation.
    - I think you must have some idea of your requirements in order to form that shortlist.

    Denis
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  2. Posts : 103
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       #12

    Try3 said:
    You still haven't said what you want to be able to do with the new computer.
    - Without knowing your requirements all else is mere speculation.
    - I think you must have some idea of your requirements in order to form that shortlist.

    Denis
    On my Desktop Computer ....
    I want to send emails
    Organise my large Ebook Collection
    Download Ebooks
    Oraganise a large photo collection
    Watch YouTube sometimes
    Browse the web for interesting stuff. The computer I have was never fast enough since I bought it.

    Be able to open more than 1 program on the computer before it freezes!

    I need to understand the difference between Hard Drives, SSD drives and Optane, so that I know which to compare.
    I need plenty of storage
    Thats about it lol
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  3. Posts : 936
    xp
       #13

    There are other Brands like Lenovo and Dell. I personally wouldn't recommend an AIO to anybody. Sorry
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  4. Posts : 4,807
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       #14

    Just my personal view. If you need an All In One for space saving then I'd go for the third one, the HP 24-f1027na All-in-One Desktop PC. Has a 256 GB SSD and a 1TB spinner for data. 8 Gig ram is ok. The AMD Ryzen 5 3500U is quite a good APU and is capable of playing YouTube videos at 1080p60HD. That and the 2 year guarantee from J.L., for the price, seems fair to me.
    PassMark - AMD Ryzen 5 3500U - Price performance comparison

    Just my opinion though.
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  5. Posts : 2,487
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       #15

    I just spent 30 minutes looking over the selection at John Lewis.

    Not impressive. Relatively few choices, regardless of price.

    Is that your ONLY possible source???

    The 3 machines you have chosen are all all-in-ones, all were introduced in 2019, and apparently all come with the same 23.8 inch monitor.

    I'd try to avoid an all-in-one if possible. Do you have some over-riding reason (desk space?) to go that route?

    Here's a rundown of the 3 you chose:

    Intel i3-9100T; clock speed 3.1 ghz; turbo speed 3.7 ghz; Passmark CPU score 5951; single thread 2322; 4 cores; rank 633; DVD drive; 1 TB HDD; 8 gb RAM; cost 600 pounds


    Intel i5-9400T; 1.8 ghz clockspeed; turbo speed 3.4 ghz; 6 cores; Passmark CPU score 7675; single thread score 2013; rank 430; 8 gb RAM; DVD drive; 1 TB HDD plus 16 GB Octane; cost 700 pounds


    AMD 3500U; clock speed 2.1ghz; turbo speed 3.7 ghz; 4 cores; Passmark CPU score 7182; single thread score 2005; rank 479; 1 TB HDD plus a 256 GB SSD; DVD drive; cost 649 pounds


    Both Intels have the same graphics.

    Given your intended usage pattern, there probably isn't a big difference between the 3. I'd think 8 GB of RAM would suit you fine.

    But I'm not excited about the configuration of any of them UNLESS you have no other source and must have an all-in-one. If you put a gun on me to choose one of those 3, I'd probably choose the cheapest one.

    I'd suggest you look for other sources and maybe try to buy the monitor separately.
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  6. Posts : 103
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       #16

    ignatzatsonic said:
    I just spent 30 minutes looking over the selection at John Lewis.

    Not impressive. Relatively few choices, regardless of price.

    Is that your ONLY possible source???
    Bought pc and tablets from there past few years. 2 year guarantee is a bonus too

    The 3 machines you have chosen are all all-in-ones, all were introduced in 2019, and apparently all come with the same 23.8 inch monitor.

    I'd try to avoid an all-in-one if possible. Do you have some over-riding reason (desk space?) to go that route?
    No just wanted a change.

    Here's a rundown of the 3 you chose:

    Intel i3-9100T; clock speed 3.1 ghz; turbo speed 3.7 ghz; Passmark CPU score 5951; single thread 2322; 4 cores; rank 633; DVD drive; 1 TB HDD; 8 gb RAM; cost 600 pounds


    Intel i5-9400T; 1.8 ghz clockspeed; turbo speed 3.4 ghz; 6 cores; Passmark CPU score 7675; single thread score 2013; rank 430; 8 gb RAM; DVD drive; 1 TB HDD plus 16 GB Octane; cost 700 pounds


    AMD 3500U; clock speed 2.1ghz; turbo speed 3.7 ghz; 4 cores; Passmark CPU score 7182; single thread score 2005; rank 479; 1 TB HDD plus a 256 GB SSD; DVD drive; cost 649 pounds
    So with this one do I get 1Tb Hard Drive the same as I have, and also 256 extra ?


    Both Intels have the same graphics.

    Given your intended usage pattern, there probably isn't a big difference between the 3. I'd think 8 GB of RAM would suit you fine.

    But I'm not excited about the configuration of any of them UNLESS you have no other source and must have an all-in-one. If you put a gun on me to choose one of those 3, I'd probably choose the cheapest one.

    Why?

    I'd suggest you look for other sources and maybe try to buy the monitor separately.
    I keep getting a message saying add 3 more characters then it freezes, so couldnt finish my post
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  7. Posts : 2,487
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       #17

    If you don't have an over-riding reason to choose an all in one, I'd lay down until that feeling went away. You say you "wanted a change", but that doesn't sound like much of a reason.

    I urge you to at least look at other vendors so you can choose from other manufacturers like Dell, Lenovo, Asus, etc.

    Do you have any idea how well John Lewis supports their customers if you have major problems--returns, repairs, who do you deal with, etc?

    Yeah that one machine has a 256 SSD plus a 1 TB HD; I assume that is 2 separate devices and that Windows 10 is on the SSD, but you need to confirm that.

    I'd choose the cheapest one mostly because it is cheapest if you must have an all in one. Problem with those things is I don't think you can upgrade much of anything.

    The cheapest one has the highest single thread score, but the lowest all threads score. In reality, if you had a blindfold on, I doubt if you'd know which of those 3 you were using, so why not save the money.

    But---I'd choose one of those 3 only at gunpoint.
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  8. Posts : 14,035
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       #18

    I've considered an All-in-One but my needs wouldn't be well-met. In comparison to a traditional tower changing devices in them is nigh-on to impossible except for repair parts. Those I've worked with used the same type AC power supply as Notebooks, brick in the cord.
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  9. Posts : 103
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       #19

    ignatzatsonic said:
    If you don't have an over-riding reason to choose an all in one, I'd lay down until that feeling went away. You say you "wanted a change", but that doesn't sound like much of a reason.

    I urge you to at least look at other vendors so you can choose from other manufacturers like Dell, Lenovo, Asus, etc.

    Do you have any idea how well John Lewis supports their customers if you have major problems--returns, repairs, who do you deal with, etc?

    .
    I have taken a tablet back that I had awhile as the charging port was loose
    John Lewis gave me a new one to replace it. No problem.
    Regarding wanting a change, some pcs come with lights on them, I wouldn't want that but that is still a change lol
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  10. Posts : 16,980
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #20

    JO69 said:
    I want to send emails
    Organise my large Ebook Collection
    Download Ebooks
    Oraganise a large photo collection
    Watch YouTube sometimes
    Browse the web for interesting stuff. The computer I have was never fast enough since I bought it.
    Be able to open more than 1 program on the computer before it freezes!
    I need plenty of storage
    All the computers in your shortlist will do these jobs.

    JO69 said:
    Browse the web for interesting stuff. The computer I have was never fast enough since I bought it.
    Internet speed is limited by your internet connection & your computer's network adapter.
    You have not said how you connect to the internet but, given your desire for an all-in-one, I assume you'll be using the wired network adapter.
    All of those on your shortlist have both wired and wireless network adapters but the wired speed details are not provided.

    You have other, unstated, requirements.
    1 You have a shortlist of all-in-ones so there must be an additional requirement in your head.
    2 Based on your current usage, you have some feel for how much storage space you want. Perhaps all those on your shortlist fulfil this requirement.
    3 If you are going to connect external storage drives, a need that your post implies, or other external devices then you need to consider your requirements in this respect. Only the SSD+HDD choice specifies its USB connections [which are sufficient for anyone without specialist needs] but I'd expect the others to have some even though they are not listed. You'd therefore need to chose the SSD+HDD one or decide to investigate the others further.
    4 I don't know the other requirements that you have not posted.

    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 22 Apr 2020 at 15:43.
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