1. Joined : Aug 2015
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    Windows 10
       10 Aug 2015 #1

    Windows 10 Upgrade process


    I'm hoping someone can tell me how the Win10 upgrade works in terms of optimization. Does it tune-up or defragment my HDD in any way. Essentially what I'm saying is that, after upgrading to Win10 from Win7 Home premium, there was a significant performance upgrade. I'm both thrilled and a little wary in the face of that. The tech savvy consumer in me would basically just like to know what went down during the upgrade.

    I hope this isn't too much for one question (first time poster) but I'd also like to know if Win10 does any virus scanning or cleaning during the installation or if problems such as malware & spyware remain after upgrading and must be removed manually?


    Lastly, I'd like to know how WIN10 handles product licensing, specifically where the product key is located on the OS.


    To the gent or lady who can answer these for me, you have my sincere thanks!
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  2. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 6,879
    Windows 10 Pro
       10 Aug 2015 #2

    J Aegrus said: View Post
    I'm hoping someone can tell me how the Win10 upgrade works in terms of optimization. Does it tune-up or defragment my HDD in any way. Essentially what I'm saying is that, after upgrading to Win10 from Win7 Home premium, there was a significant performance upgrade. I'm both thrilled and a little wary in the face of that. The tech savvy consumer in me would basically just like to know what went down during the upgrade.
    Isn't that one of the reasons for developing and users to install new versions of programs/operating systems - to improve performance? I don't know if it defrags or optimizes the hard drive files but I have thought that the 7 computers I have upgraded have been running faster.

    J Aegrus said: View Post

    I hope this isn't too much for one question (first time poster) but I'd also like to know if Win10 does any virus scanning or cleaning during the installation or if problems such as malware & spyware remain after upgrading and must be removed manually?
    No, the upgrade itself does not do any malware/spyware checking or removal. A clean install will get rid of 99% of viruses and such, but you lose everything else too, of course.

    J Aegrus said: View Post

    Lastly, I'd like to know how WIN10 handles product licensing, specifically where the product key is located on the OS.


    To the gent or lady who can answer these for me, you have my sincere thanks!
    Use a product key sniffer such as produkey or showkey. Your Windows 10 Home license key will be exactly the same as millions of other Windows 10 Home users. Once you upgrade, Windows 10 creates a unique and anonymous Product ID generated from your hardware configuration. It accesses the license information from the old operating system while upgrading to allow the new Product ID to be sent to the Microsoft Activation Servers where the Product ID is stored for future activations.

    Every time Windows 10 starts, it will check your hardware configuration and if the major components are the same it will generate the same Product ID and stay activated. If you change your motherboard (or clone the disk and put the clone in a second computer) the Product ID calculated will be different and Windows 10 will de-activate itself. If you do a clean install, you skip manually entering the Product Key and Windows 10 will calculate the same Product ID it had before based off your hardware, which will be the same one saved on Microsoft Activation Servers and it will re-activate itself with a generic Product Key that 99% of Windows 10 Home versions now have.

    Microsoft has discovered that preventing piracy by the use of Product Key sharing is too costly and ineffective to pursue, except in the most extreme cases - so they have moved to the Product ID activation method now. Do not confuse the terms Product Key and Product ID - they are two different numbers. Product Key is the old 5x5 alphanumeric string that used to be printed on the labels and later stored in BIOS. Product ID is calculated by Windows and based mostly upon your hardware configuration and hardware serial numbers.
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  3. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,923
    Windows 10 Pro
       10 Aug 2015 #3

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    Microsoft has discovered that preventing piracy by the use of Product Key sharing is too costly and ineffective to pursue, except in the most extreme cases - so they have moved to the Product ID activation method now. Do not confuse the terms Product Key and Product ID - they are two different numbers. Product Key is the old 5x5 alphanumeric string that used to be printed on the labels and later stored in BIOS. Product ID is calculated by Windows and based mostly upon your hardware configuration and hardware serial numbers.
    Actually, Product ID is just the numerical representation of the product key.

    http://www.licenturion.com/xp/fully-licensed-wpa.txt

    The meaning of each of the five groups of digits is documented in the
    next table.

    Code:
           digits | meaning
          --------+-------------------------------------------------
            AAAAA | apparently always 55034 (in Windows XP RC1)
              BBB | most significant three digits of Raw Product Key
                  | (see below)
          CCCCCCC | least significant six digits of Raw Product Key
                  | plus check digit (see below)
               DD | index of the public key used to verify the
                  | Product Key (see below)
              EEE | random value
    As can be seen, the (Raw) Product Key plays an important role in
    generating the Product ID
    .

    >>>> Product Key

    The Raw Product Key is buried inside the Product Key that is printed
    on the sticker distributed with each Windows XP CD. It consists of
    five alphanumeric strings separated by '-' characters, where each
    string is composed of five characters, as in

    FFFFF-GGGGG-HHHHH-JJJJJ-KKKKK
    There is, however, an extended product ID which is much longer, and we don't really know what the format of this is.
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  4. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 6,879
    Windows 10 Pro
       10 Aug 2015 #4

    Mystere said: View Post
    Actually, Product ID is just the numerical representation of the product key.
    Oops. So it is either the Installation ID (IID) or extended product ID which Windows 10 calculates from the hardware configure and compares, not the Product ID.

    I am assuming most of this (if not all) has carried forward to Windows 10:
    Microsoft Corporation

    and

    Protect Your Customers from Piracy
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