anyone know why this happened

corvairbob · 14 Feb 2020

i asked about why my thumb drive that worked then stopped, and got a ton of answers that were not quite what i was asking. so i just marked it done, the this also happened at the same time. i did not notice it until after i asked that other question.

when that t/d failed i then now see in the network part of the tree the very same folder i was trying to back up to the t/d. and when i delete one of the folders in that network section it deletes the folder in the c drive. anyone happen to have a clue why that happened?

under the network tab i bob laptop and under that i have users, and saved pictures. and if i delete anything in one of those folders it deletes it in the c drive folder.

i never ever had that before that t/d failed. it was not there even when i was doing the tests of that t/d

win10 1909

Try3 · 14 Feb 2020

You probably selected your own computer in the network section of File explorer, navigated down to the folder concerned and deleted it.

You provide no info on your thumb drive so I cannot comment on that.

Denis

corvairbob · 14 Feb 2020

i did not provide that because the last post on this everyone talked about the t/d and not the issue.

anyway the backup program i used backs up from the c drive to the usb t/d and to e:\ i know that works ok because in the back up program did not complete if i did not use the correct drive letter.

so i know the program was backing up to the e drive. and i could look and see it backing up t the e drive. but i never had any backups going to the network. i do not have a network drive.

i have the backups on a usb hard drive so i can get them back before i delete them from the network area.

i never had any backups do that before. and when the backup completed the pc rebooted and ruined the t/d.

but i was asking if anyone had a clue how a normal backup go into the network area? thanks.

Try3 · 14 Feb 2020

corvairbob said:

when that t/d failed i then now see in the network part of the tree the very same folder i was trying to back up to the t/d. and when i delete one of the folders in that network section it deletes the folder in the c drive. anyone happen to have a clue why that happened?

I was responding to your question. It was the only question in your post.

Please post a screenshot of what File explorer shows - select the 'network area' to which you refer in the left hand pane so that both it and its constituent parts in the right-hand pane are visible.

Denis

corvairbob · 14 Feb 2020

this is the folders section and you see the lower left where is shows network and bobs laptop then below that users and saved pictures

well up to yesterday that was not there. the network was and bobs laptop was but i did not have the rest there. if you think you need to see more let em know.

it is not a big deal but i would like to know why that happened. later today or tomorrow i'm just going to delete them and be done with it.

as for backups i will never leave a t/d in the port over night again. as i's sure the pc got an updated and had to do some restarts. and that was the issue. but the backups getting into the network is a new issue. thanks.

anyone know why this happened-network-bakup-issue.jpg

Try3 · 14 Feb 2020

Those entries appear when you have set those folders as Shared. If you delete them then you are deleting the copies within the shared folders which, from your description, are the original copies.

If those entries were not there before then something very unusual has happened overnight. If you do not want those folders to be shared then unshare them rather than delete them.

To put it another way, those entries in your network area are not the result of your backup.
- They are the folders you already had.
- They have been set as shared folders and are not copies at all.
- Setting them as shared has merely alowed them to be visible in that part of File explorer - it has not copied them, it is merely a view of the original folders.

Denis

corvairbob · 14 Feb 2020

ok that make sense i did not have them shared but maybe when the pc shut down it changed something.

ok i took sharing away from both but the saven pictures has not gone away yet. the users vanished as soon as i removed sharing. the other may go away soon. if not now that you told me about that i will dig deeper and get that gone. thanks

Try3 · 14 Feb 2020

And do look at the other thread where I have suggested you scan for malware.
I reached that conclusion from the symptoms given in that thread.
I have never seen a report of folders being shared without explicit action having been taken by the user so your symptoms in this thread make me even more concerned about malware being involved.

Denis

corvairbob · 15 Feb 2020

thanks i have norton running so i do not think i have anything and a few days ago i ran malwarebytes and that windows malware program plus norton deep scan.

i still think i got an update and that shut down the pc and with the t/d in it yet and not getting ejected it messed the t/d up.

i will run another deep scan with norton just to make sure. thanks

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corvairbob said:

thanks i have norton running so i do not think i have anything and a few days ago i ran malwarebytes and that windows malware program plus norton deep scan.

i still think i got an update and that shut down the pc and with the t/d in it yet and not getting ejected it messed the t/d up.

i will run another deep scan with norton just to make sure. thanks

i think what happened with those shared folders was on the wifes pc i set hers to share and i did have mine set to share. and after that i did not have those folders on my pc but i did see them on her pc. so maybe after my pc shut down that reset the network sharing on my pc and then they were now there. i put the missing folder back with my backup.

i got all this from trying to do a backup to a t/d so now i will just forgo using a t/d as a backup. i have 2 500gb hard drives in the mail and 1 more case for them and i will just use them for backup. seems i can leave those plugged in and when the pc shuts down the hard drives just stop. and i do not have to eject them when i remove them so that takes the spike out of the picture.

thanks for the help and reminders