Is it practical and safe to stick with Windows 7?

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  1. Posts : 50
    Windows 10 Pro, v20H2, 64bit dual boot with Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS
       #1

    Is it practical and safe to stick with Windows 7?


    My question arises due to the time it's taking me, as a non-expert user, to get W10 up and running following upgrade from Windows 7. I still have issues that will take even more time to sort and it's not as if I'm enjoying the process. For me, the PC is a work tool rather than an interest and I would prefer not to spend (waste?) this much time on it. So, should I stick with W7? It works flawlessly for me and has taken little of my time in terms of maintenance over the past few years.

    We're constantly told that it's a risk to run an unsupported operating system so I didn't really consider this option until earlier this week when helping a friend prepare his PC for an upgrade from W7 to W10 - and discovered something quite surprising. His Windows Update app was set to automatic update yet it was not working. He had over 50 updates outstanding, mostly critical. The last Windows update installed on his machine was 3.5 years ago - yes, three and a half years! And the PC is still working just fine - it's as quick and responsive as ever and he has not suffered any noticeable problems. Make me think. Any views on this?
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  2. pparks1's Avatar
    Posts : 1,696
    Windows 10 Pro
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    I would not stay with 7. I would install 10 clean.

    Not only is 7 now unsupported, but developers won't keep making software and hardware with 7 support. It might work, but if it doesn't you won't get support.
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  3. TechnoMage's Avatar
    Posts : 378
    Win 7 Pro/32, Win 10 Pro/64/32
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    Yes, for the time being, at least, staying with Windows 7, is totally practical. Why not?

    Do you trash your old car, every time a new one hits the market? I drove my last car for seven years, before I even thought about trading it off for a new one. After seven months, I'm still learning how to run the dang (new) thing!

    The learning curve for Windows 10, is likewise long and tedious. After installing Win-10 several dozen times, I'm just starting to learn how to properly set it up, to close the security loopholes, (WUDO and Cortana) and make it operate in a manner familiar to Win-7 users.
    I'm a computer tech, of forty years, and it still takes me several hours to install Win-10 and properly set it up, tweak and tune it, for safe, secure and Operator Friendly operation.
    How the non-techie person would ever do that is beyond my comprehension. Is there a "Windows 10 for Dummies" book?

    Cheers mates!
    TechnoMage
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  4. jamis's Avatar
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    Windows10 Home 64 bit v. 20H2 bld. 19041.928
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    TechnoMage said:
    Is there a "Windows 10 for Dummies" book?
    Actually, there are 3 editions and a separate one for seniors. Sort of validates why so many folks have so many issues working with W10.
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  5. bobkn's Avatar
    Posts : 3,610
    Win 10 X64 Pro 21H1 19043.928
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    TechnoMage said:
    (snip)

    Do you trash your old car, every time a new one hits the market? I drove my last car for seven years, before I even thought about trading it off for a new one. After seven months, I'm still learning how to run the dang (new) thing!

    (snip)
    Only 7 years? How profligate.

    Cars don't usually receive, or need security updates. (There was a firmware update for some Chrysler products a few years ago, as they were hackable through a wireless interface.)

    I have a friend who has been running 7 for years. She has a number of updates pending that always fail, so I'm not sure what kind of condition it's in. I dread upgrading to 10, if it's even possible. (Not a hardware issue. I'm not optimistic that 10 will upgrade over the mess.)

    When it was announced that 10 would pretty much make updates mandatory, I worried. While it'd be nice to have the Win10 universe all running the latest version with all patches, the likelihood of a problem with every update is high enough that there would be a lot of issues, especially for people who regard a PC as an appliance. I haven't seen any statistics on how that has played out.
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  6. ThrashZone's Avatar
    Posts : 7,108
    3-Win-7Prox64 2-Win10Prox64
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    Hi,
    I will be using 7
    I did the December quality rollup
    Just disabled the full screen popup message and turned off tele.. garbage
    Seems fine even though not too many people do the quality rollups

    KB4530734 Security Monthly Quality Rollup update Windows 7 - Dec. 10 - Page 2 - Windows 7 Help Forums

    I have not done the January rollup.

    But too each his/her own on what os they use I really don't care I'm not a preacher like many others
    Last edited by ThrashZone; 25 Jan 2020 at 12:46.
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  7. Posts : 52
    Windows 10 64 bit
       #7

    If you get a third party virus protection security is not a problem
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  8. badrobot's Avatar
    Posts : 5,258
    Win 10 Pro x64
       #8

    If it doesn't really bother you, then stick with 7.
    But who knows, maybe 2 or 3 years down the road, when 7 is totally abandoned, you might start getting some performance issues. So maybe it's a good idea to do a soft transition. Get another hard drive (or SSD), install 10 separately and take your time learning it. Don't install all the programs that you are using on 7 in one sitting. Install them as you need them, one at a time.
    Upgrade from 7 is not as easy as it sounds. The outcome depends on the state of your Win 7 OS before you do the upgrade. Some are flawless, while some are unusable after the upgrade. So, maybe it's also a good learning curve for you to start installing Windows 10 on your own. This forum will be ready to help you with it. Just create your own thread... "My Windows 10 Adventure..."... :)
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  9. jimbo45's Avatar
    Posts : 10,489
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
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    TechnoMage said:
    Yes, for the time being, at least, staying with Windows 7, is totally practical. Why not?

    Do you trash your old car, every time a new one hits the market? I drove my last car for seven years, before I even thought about trading it off for a new one. After seven months, I'm still learning how to run the dang (new) thing!

    The learning curve for Windows 10, is likewise long and tedious. After installing Win-10 several dozen times, I'm just starting to learn how to properly set it up, to close the security loopholes, (WUDO and Cortana) and make it operate in a manner familiar to Win-7 users.
    I'm a computer tech, of forty years, and it still takes me several hours to install Win-10 and properly set it up, tweak and tune it, for safe, secure and Operator Friendly operation.
    How the non-techie person would ever do that is beyond my comprehension. Is there a "Windows 10 for Dummies" book?

    Cheers mates!
    TechnoMage
    Hi there

    @TechnoMage

    One thing on New cars I still haven't yet got easily to grips with are those wretched electronuc Handbrake controls.

    On a Hill I am still looking for the old fashioned mechanical handbrake !!!! Also what happens if Battery fails -- the old cable system at least always ensured even if electronics totally dead the handbrake would still work.

    Bad Move Volvo / BMW / Mercedes and all the new electric cars !!! Bring back the old fasioned Hand Brake mechanical control for this.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. Posts : 50
    Windows 10 Pro, v20H2, 64bit dual boot with Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Is it practical and safe to stick with Windows 7?

    Thanks for your opinions. I thought my idea would be sacrilege to your ears and that I'd get 'shouted down' for suggesting such a thing on a W10 forum. Seems sticking with W7, at least for a few years, may not be such a bad idea.

    Apart from a few (minor?) things not working properly, W10 is up and running OK on my PC, however, I can't help but feel that W10 is just a re-badged, and in certain areas, partially disabled, version of W7 with a little top dressing to make it look 'nicer' to folks who care about such things. I say this as a basic user whose most adventurous operations have been HDD re-formatting and setting up a QNAP NAS (with it's user hostile 'operating system/user interface').

    EDIT: I run a 26 year old Japanese car that runs perfectly so change for the sake of it is not on my agenda.
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