Went back to Win 7 pro

went back to 7pro, too many bugs in 10. 1. does not let my Norton AV update, updates fail, norton uninstalled & re installed which worked until I shut comp down problem tthen reappears. I uninstalled two more times with the same problem. 2. Could not open my office 2010 programs message stating could not be found. Also win 10 keeps locking my number pad , what I liked about it is that it seemed a bit faster and my dell laptop 1702x ran cooler but now I'm going to wait for it to be updated before trying again.

I would have gotten rid of Norton. I quit using that years ago. I am now using Avast AIS and have no problems with Office 2010 . For me Win 10 is way more stable then 7 was.

Have to agree with Gary, but it's been over 5 years since Norton was anywhere near my machines.

sportsfan7702 said:

Have to agree with Gary, but it's been over 5 years since Norton was anywhere near my machines.

Well I've been running Norton for five years with no problems at all

iceman said:

Well I've been running Norton for five years with no problems at all

Yep me to I would of gotten rid of Norton, I run Eset Nod32 and have done for the last 6 or 7 years Norton was a hog back then dunno if it's any different now.

iceman said:

Well I've been running Norton for five years with no problems at all

It may not be compatible with Windows 10. You now have problems with it. But it is your choice.

You said:

Kaspersky and Bitdefender, which are two good antiviruses, fully support Windows 10. :)

This isn't related to the post, but my sister used to have Norton 360 which ground her system to a halt and constantly spat error messages. My sister's computer was infected with a trojan horse at one point. Norton did not detect it, so I took to the forums, and the community, which consists of volunteers, identified the trojan and confirmed that Norton did not detect it. However, a free antimalware tool could remove it. I ended up using a combo of Task Manager and IObit Unlocker to delete the files manually, and did a search of the registry for the names of the files that I deleted. I discovered that it had modified the logonui.exe registry key so that it would launch whenever logonui.exe did, which should've been enough to trip SONAR (gimmicky name for heuristics). Heuristics did detect and delete part of the virus which was completely useless, but not the main executable which hijacked the registry entry (it still ran in the background).

I guess that the trojan spread by removable drives, because eventually it turned up on my Dad's computer, which had Trend Micro Titanium Maximum Security. Apparently, Trend Micro stores exclusions in an unprotected area of the registry, which the trojan promptly took advantage of. I removed the exclusion and scanned for it, but Trend Micro still missed it. Both antivirus products, touted as the best av by their respective owners (and the most complete version), missed it, whereas a little, free program called Dr.Web FixIt! was able to find it.

Seriously, how do people still manage to find Norton? I know that it's usually pre-installed on computers, but who actually buys bloatware? If the antivirus was actually good, then it wouldn't need to force itself upon misinformed users.

McAfee (Intel Security) does the same thing and is equally as bad.

I agree my Norton removal tool gets used on my clients PC's on a regular basis.

I'm with you guys as well. Had a 4 month old HP laptop here with Macafee being a damned nuisance so I uninstalled it but it took over half an hour, finished with a 100% removed screen stuck on the desktop, and it still didn't remove its files or registry entries!

Would you want to trust your computer to crap programming like this?

But, to be fair, Norton is now not such a resource hog as it once was but I would still never use it.

In my experience, the biggest problem on computers I get to look at is those darned PUPs. A/V progs don't stop them, either, as they are invited in. 500-600 PUP entries is not uncommon!

1. I agree with others, I would highly recommend using the built-in Windows 10 Defender, along with Malewarebytes Free manual scan. I also use SpyBlaster Free for preventive measures. This setup serves me very well!

2. No problems here with Office 2010 here, ....yet. Office 2010 has updated via Windows update and I have been actively using it alot (Word, Excel & PPT) on Windows 10 Pro. However with the included Windows 10 Mail/Calendar/Contacts apps I really don't see a necessity for Outlook for my gmail & outlook accounts, as I did with Windows 7. I can't use Outlook for my exchange server at home anyway.

3. I agree with you that the numlock seems to turn off a bit more but not too much.

I really like Win10 coming from Windows 7 Pro, in fact so much that I just decided to keep permanently by successfully completing a clean install. Everything is installed and Win10 is active. I really love how the permissions are fully working under Win10, especially since I have multiple users at home with normal access. I also like how a little more is included which means less 3rd party apps. I also regained tons of disk space with the clean install + apps using only approx 40 gigs. Win10 seems faster and more responsive, and certainly boot times have increased significantly.