Laptop Battery, Does It Hurt the Battery to Use External AC Power?

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  1. Posts : 323
    Windows 10 (2), Win 8.1 (1), Win 7 (1)
       #21

    See if this one is more useful:
    How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University

    JohnD
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  2. Posts : 326
    windows 10 pro build 21h2
       #22

    these days the batteries are smart and always keeping the laptop plugged in will not ruin the battery because of overcharging. however, in the end the battery will die and it will finish quickly and that will happen no matter what you do
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  3. Posts : 7,907
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
       #23

    johnpd said:
    Thanks - good link.

    My HP Probook has a BIOS option to limit charging to 80% to prolong battery life. The article confirms that limiting charging / max voltage in this way reduces battery fade over many charge cycles. Quote A laptop battery could be prolonged by lowering the charge voltage when connected to the AC grid. To make this feature user-friendly, a device should feature a “Long Life” mode that keeps the battery at 4.05V/cell and offers a SoC of about 80 percent. One hour before traveling, the user requests the “Full Capacity” mode to bring the charge to 4.20V/cell.

    If you buy an electric car, beware the article implies you will lose 15-25% of the battery's energy storage capacity after c. 200 discharge / charge cycles!
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  4. Posts : 41,515
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #24

    Are you referring to "Smart Battery"?

    If so I see it as an option in the BIOS.
    HP never voluntarily suggested its use (they were never asked about the feature).

    One battery had warranty replacement (3 year warranty).
    The replacement is still in its shipping box.
    The computer has been used as a desktop replacement.

    I'm wondering about battery lifespan (never used in its shipping box compared to 80% charge in the notebook/mobile workstation)

    How did you get info?
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  5. Posts : 7,907
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
       #25

    zbook said:
    Are you referring to "Smart Battery"?

    If so I see it as an option in the BIOS.
    HP never voluntarily suggested its use (they were never asked about the feature).

    One battery had warranty replacement (3 year warranty).
    The replacement is still in its shipping box.
    The computer has been used as a desktop replacement.

    I'm wondering about battery lifespan (never used in its shipping box compared to 80% charge in the notebook/mobile workstation)

    How did you get info?
    This BIOS setting in my new HP ProBook is under Advanced / Power Management Options / Battery Health Meter / Maximise Battery Health. The BIOS info box says This setting will maximise battery health by lowering the maximum battery charge lvele to 80%

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  6. Posts : 41,515
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #26

    This opened from a link within Battery overview:
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/...ry-saving-tips

    Did not see the features for Advanced / Power Management Options / Battery Health Meter / Maximise Battery Health
    and did not see options in the BIOS.

    This is HP software for workstations. It allows changing BIOS settings from within the software.
    If it is of interest see if it can work on your probook.
    https://www8.hp.com/us/en/workstatio...e-advisor.html
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  7. Posts : 7,907
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
       #27

    zbook said:
    This opened from a link within Battery overview:
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/...ry-saving-tips

    Did not see the features for Advanced / Power Management Options / Battery Health Meter / Maximise Battery Health
    and did not see options in the BIOS.

    This is HP software for workstations. It allows changing BIOS settings from within the software.
    If it is of interest see if it can work on your probook.
    https://www8.hp.com/us/en/workstatio...e-advisor.html
    I've battled to remove HP bloatware so I don't want any more! This may be a new BIOS option since my ProBook is only a few weeks old.
    Last edited by Steve C; 03 Nov 2019 at 08:09.
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  8. HeM
    Posts : 391
    Win 10 Pro x64 v.22Η2
       #28

    Try3 said:
    You can find out Last charged capacity and Design capacity by running...
    Code:
    powercfg /batteryreport /output D:\Desktop\BatteryReport.html /Duration 1
    ...so I would be very interested to know your results.
    Hello @Try3,
    I've followed your instructions and sent below a screenshot and an attachment (.html zip).

    Note that charging reached up to 90% in about 1h 50min (11:50 local time) and then seemed to stay there.
    As you can see, I had to unplug/plug power a few times to speed up the process.
    I think, it's not bad for a (not used) 11 years old battery.
    Laptop Battery, Does It Hurt the Battery to Use External AC Power?-battrep.jpg

    Thank you for the tip!
    Laptop Battery, Does It Hurt the Battery to Use External AC Power? Attached Files
    Last edited by HeM; 03 Nov 2019 at 07:34.
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  9. Posts : 16,972
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #29

    HeM,

    I always regard the significant result as being the comparison between the Fully charged capacity {which means capacity when it was last fully charged} and Design capacity levels. In your case, that is 49423 / 52800 = 94%.

    Given that I can also see in your table that you took it up to a very high level of charge {99%} 48972mWh at some stage, I think you can rely on the result. Quite an amazing level of preservation.

    Denis
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